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[Anonymous]

ON 04/16/04 Stupervisor Platt of LCEMS decided not to back up a basic EMS Unit in Hollow Creek at a MVA. A 19 year old male was pronounced DOA then he wasn't then he was. He was then transported by helicopter to RMH ER alive placed on a ventilator then succumbed to injuries a week later. Stupervisor Platt also refused to allow another Paramedic Unit to respond. He was removed for two weeks and brought back at full capacity. He acts as if nothing has happened. Remember, he is in full control of your emergency response during his work shift. In regard to the 19yo, in respect to the family (his mother works for personnel) no names. SOMEDAY HE MAY MAKE A MEDIOCRE FIRST RESPONDER SINCE HE TEACHES THAT. ie: The Hollow Creek Firemen requested a recheck of the patient several times. :(

[Anonymous]

WHAT!!!! Heard he was lazy and worthless, but, Did we not come up short on this one? What happened to the 20,000t vehicle TOMMY bought for them? With all the RESCUE equipment on it? It seems the ghost of Christmas Pass is still there BUT I don't beleive even he has the Heart! (or the second one) :D

[Anonymous]

just like the old days, they like to sit in there office and run scenes, nothing has changed.....imagine that...

[Anonymous]

First of all, unless you were on this particular call and witnessed what happened, then you really don't know the whole truth and all you know is "here say." I have been a co-worker now with Mr. Platt for several years now and in his defense, he is not lazy and he does not sit at the desk all shift. Mr. Platt runs just as many calls as any other supervisor that we have, if not more. He also goes beyond his duties and responsibilities by teaching, setting up the EMS section of our Lex Co webpage and helps with the extrication classes etc. He also is the only supervisor that I know who chooses to forfit his position several times a month so that he can work as a paramedic, just to keep his skills up to par. If this is not showing leadership then I dont know what is. Mr. Platt made a decision that night based on what he thought was right. People can point their finger and blame whomever they want but I know he would never do anything to hurt anyone intentionally! Whenever their is a tragedy someone always tries to find another to blame, the fact is, God was ready for that young man to be with him, instead of here with us. EMS employees use their decision making and skills to the best of their abilites, and that is all we can do. The final decision is not in our hands, if we can help then we do, but ultimately it is not up to us.

[Anonymous]

Rubic, if you leave your e-mail address I will be happy to send you the pics of the new supervisors truck, or better yet, you can go by station 10 and check it out in person, if they are not out on a call saving lives. :lol:

[Anonymous]

first of all this guy who was 19 years old was a great guy very well loved and we will miss him forever..but when u go to the point of blaming other people for mistakes u aren't 100% that shows how ignotante u r.. and u need to hush, LCEMS saves Many lives every day and may save urs one day. so to talk about somebody being lazy, is crao they work hard to do their job and if you have a problem with it get over and and **** ur mouth before it over loads ur butt.

[Anonymous]

lexhick, come on who are you trying to take up for, i sure hope not the person who is responsible for everything that happened, I agree with you, LCEMS saves many lives but, when you have people that are not preforming their job up to standard, you will have incidents like this, i know what goes on, i was in it for a long time, and you show your childness the way you talk, come on kid, if your gonna participate at least have a knowledge of what your talking about and what is going on....IN OTHER WORDS DONT BE A "DUMB" "HICK".....people look at this website, and trust me a LOT of people do, they see certain peoples ignorance, and this is a public forum for people to talk about not to slander, or degrade one another but geez, when someone cannot drive 10 or 15 minutes to help out a less experienced crew, in which, that someone who is supposed to be supervising and teaching....what do you expect ???????

[Anonymous]

Well then lets get technical, if the Co. had more funding to staff our units properly, their would have already been a PARAMEDIC on scene to help, but since we dont have all ALS units ( that means an ambulance with a paramedic and an emt) then these type of tragedies will continue to happen. So, you take a paramedic out of his area to help cover that call, this leaves two parts of the co. unmanned, then what happens when Grandma is having a heart attack a few miles away? There is noone to help because we have cut our manpower short for that area and overstaffed the scene of an accident.

[Anonymous]

Lets look at the real reason the problem started.

1. Council needs to pay our more for paramedics in order to have paramedics on all of our units.

2.Our training program has been terrrible. The assessment process includes a scene size-up which includes calling additional resources.

The crew on the scene tried to handle it themselves. They never called for a 2nd unit. If they needed a 3rd hurst tool on the scene, they never called for it and they sure didn't advise anyone that they had 3 critical patients.

If a proper assessment had been performed, things would have gone better.

I agree with EMS Employee that Platt is the best supervisor we have. He is not a micro manager and does not feel a need to but into every call we run. He has always been there for me if I felt I needed help and asked for it and he is the only supervisor that I feel I can come to if I have a problem.

[Anonymous]

As a past LCEMS EMT and also working on the old C shift with Stuart, I know if I ever was in a critical situation myself and needed a damn good paramedic to be at my head, Stuart Platt would be one of the VERY FEW I would choose. He's one of the best. The people out there in EMS, Fire service and in hospital ERs are by no means playing GOD. They cannot work miracles. They do what they can do with what they are presented with. Everyone makes poor judgements at times. If all of you people out there were crucified, sued, or fired for your own poor judgements on the truck, then there would be No LCEMS. The incident was very unfortunate. I hope and pray I am never in a situation such as that, and my sympathy goes out to the family. But as a fellow human...PEOPLE DIE EVERYDAY. If a life was not meant to be saved, then you are working against the devine. I think most "veterans" still working there need a standing ovation for their extreme ability to tolerate and overcome ridiculous, petty situations and people.
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[Anonymous]

I especially like the message from "Jerry Falwell" about God wanting that child. Get real! About seeing the rescue vehicle, I have seen it many times at Lizards Thicket, Midlands EMS, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, and Circuit City. The only reason Mr. Platt rides a unit is to learn himself. Trust me if a helicopter is called its automatically a paramedic call, unless its Mr. Lillard. He calls them because he's also lazy. But I could name many others also. Someone brought up a good point about Mr. Platt teaching extrication. Don't you think he would have been a large ASSett at a MVA with entrapment. For your knowledge it wasn't a third Hurst tool needed, it was a ram. Also about removing a truck from an area, a supervisor doesn't have transport capabilities and secondly, if you have multiple traumatized patients a second unit is usually required. But in defense of Mr. Platt he needs to keep his story constant, and for you who holds him in such high regards and from reading your comments I can tell you have a vast knowledge and many years of experience in EMS. By the way a dead person doesn't have aginal respirations and head motion. I am glad I am no longer associated with Lexington EMS.

[Anonymous]

The way out system works is you do scene size up, at this point additional resources should have been called and enroute. If you are out numbered and overwhelmed by more critical paitients then you have staff to care for them, you do what you can to salvage the patients that are not so critical, atleast they have a better chance of survival. This goes with a mass cassualty situation, if you have a bad call with a critical grandmother and a child, I would help the child. They have a better chance of survival . Obviously if all 3 pts were in resp. distress, then only 2 have a chance to survive, unless additional help arrives very quickly. These Men did the best that the could with what they had to work with. This was a bad call by the people on scene, they should have seen they were overwhelmed and called for help! And we are so glad that Lex Co. is weeding out the bad staff and incompetent employees so that we can have a strong staff. It is a shame that it takes tragedy to make changes, buy that is how it goes. How many people have to die at a bad intersection before a red-light is put in place? Well, we can beg for the light for years, but once it is a county council mans family member that dies, then you will see actions start taking effect quickly.

[Anonymous]

EMSvet----You can call Mr Platt lazy or Mr Lilliard lazy, buy they are some of the smartest Men I know! Oh, you see the truck at lizards thicket because, guess what EMS employees have to eat to!!!!! As long as we cover our area, it doesnt matter where we go or what we do. :twisted:

[Anonymous]

Well as far as scene size up,damn, i did not know that ems was comparing a 2 car mva to a 747 plane crash with 200 patients these days, it gets really bad when you abandon a paitent that is still breathing..and when you have 2 critical patients in the back of a unit with newbie first responders. Sounds like a mixed pot of hmmmm.... Abandonment, Negligence, and plain stupidity....I agree with you, If it is someones turn to die, its gonna happen, but, then again you never know if that paramedic or supervisor could have made a save ??? That leaves you asking the question WHAT IF ?

Its bad when you have a Fire Department demanding rechecks of a patient because someone does not want to provide a standard of care.....

That is Unacceptable
By the way Burns was the best Supervisor

[Anonymous]

Anybody who ever calls doubt upon Lillard's ability as a paramedic is a fool. I have seen Lillard save more lives than the number of years you are alive. He ain't about to kiss the ass of anybody....but he knows more about emergency medicine than anybody in Lex Co EMS.




And as somebody who has been here more than 6 mos ( far longer than most in EMS) Stuart Platt is a fine supervisor.

[Anonymous]

Obviously n2bate was not there and need s to get their facts straight. Platt was in the back of my unit at LMC helping me get it back in service when the call for the 2nd unit and helicopter came in and not in the office. Stuart is the only supervisor that would have been doing that. From the radio transmissions we heard that night, Unit 9 never indicated they had anything but a single car MVC with one patient. We need to quit with the name calling. Platt and Lillard are two of the most experienced personnel we have and they are not here to defend their actions. How would any of you like to have the rest of the world critiqueing your actions on any given call when they were not there.

[Anonymous]

Keep tokin-

[Anonymous]

Keep tokin-And Burns has the worst piss poor attitude of anyone I know-

[Anonymous]

Hey guest you obviously dont pay to much attention when hollow creek was sent out to the mva it was sent as a 2 car mva head on, you ALL need to get your facts straight.....Billy Burns was the best supervisor because he did not show favrotism im sorry it offends you when somebody does their job.........A supervisor is supposed to be someone who watches over you and helps you when you need it....Not your drinking buddy after your done with your shift......You all are a buncha ems-fied morons.........Have a Nice Day

:axe: :toimonst:

[Anonymous]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS! FINALLY A SITE WHERE YOU CAN WHINE IN A ******LY FASSION. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE STATEMENTS OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ABOUT EMS. IF YOU HAVE AT ALL BEEN IN EMS FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOOD CALLS AND BAD CALLS AND IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN HERE FOR A WHILE YOU PROBABLY HAVE RUN SOME OF BOTH. NOBODY EXCEPT THE PEOPLE ON THE CALL KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED AND ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT IS ONLY HEARSAY. WE ARE ALL SORRY FOR JEANNIE'S LOSS AND HOPE THAT SHE IS DOING AS WELL AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. WHAT HAPPENED HAS HAPPENED AND THE BEST ANYONE CAN DO IS TO MAKE SURE THOSE INVOLVED HAVE LEARNED FROM MISTAKES AND DO A SUPER JOB NEXT CALL. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH ALL OF PUBLIC SAFETY. ESPECIALLY EMS. BUT GETTING ON THIS SITE AND POINTING FINGERS IS NOT GONNA SOLVE ANY OF THEM. IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO DOWN GRADE SOMEONE IN THIS WAY. WELL, YOU NEED TO GROW SOME BALLS. IM SURE SOMEONE WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT ME AND FRANKLY I DON'T CARE. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST EXPERIENCE HERE, YES, LILLARD, PLATT. DAVID SHULL, AND EVEN BILLY BURNS HAVE MANY YEARS IN AND DO A GREAT JOB. IF YOU DON'T THINK WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB, THEN MY IDEA IS TO LET PALMETTO TAKE OVER AND RUN 911 FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS .(A COUPLE OF HOURS SHOULD BE ENOUGH)[/b]

[Anonymous]

If the public is going to be so quick to judge Lexington County EMS...maybe they should spend a good portion of their life getting the training that paramedics have. I see trucks all over the county everyday, and knowing that Lillard, Platt, Hammond, Young or Legan is on that truck is PEACE OF MIND. With out these DEDICATED people many people would not be here today. From personal experience without one of the paramedics listed above I would have lost one of my very best friends. There is NO WAY I could or would do the job that the men and women of Lexington County EMS do for the amount of money the county pays them. The county needs to take a LONG LOOK at the pay scale for their employees, especially the little people (Dispatchers, Ems, Fire Servic, and Police Officers). With out the little people of Lexington County the County where would the public be? :roll:

[Anonymous]

SHOW INTERMEDIATES SOME LOVE. Most of us try our best on
every call.And I think as long as you learn from your mistakes,
and don't keep making the same one over & over , and try your
best it is all anyone can ask of you. REMEMBER WE ARE TRYING.
EVERYONE KNOWS ME, I CAN TAKE WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO
SAY ABOUT WHAT I WROTE. SO MAN UP !!!!!!

[Anonymous]

I hear your voices and I feel your pain. There is but one thing to do! Write-in Dr. James R. Metts for Coroner on June 8th. With Dr. Metts as our Coroner, these problems will vanish as if by magic! Not only that, but Dr. Metts will once again make political history by being elected to an office he is not seeking. LET'S DO IT FOR THE DOCTOR! Remember, your vote counts!

[Anonymous]

OBVIOUSLY JOEFOOL OR WHAT EVER YOU CALL YOUR SELF, YOU WERE IN THAT BURNS CLICK. BURN'S VERY MUCH SO PLAYED FAVORITISM AND HAD HIS DRINKING/HUNTING BUDDIES. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH CAN REMEMBER UNIT 9 BEING MOVED TO STA. 10 WITH UNIT 5 GOING TO HOLLOW CREEK JUST SO HIS FAVORITE BUDDIES CAN COME AND PLAY HEARTS WHILE ON DUTY. YOUR TALKIG ABOUT THE KING OF MICRO MANAGEMENT HIMSELF. REMEMBER WHY HE'S NOT A SHIFT SUPERVISOR ANY MORE? THATS YOUR BUDDY.

[Anonymous]

I never said that he was buddy..... I just said that he was a great supervisor and did not put up the bullcrap like some of the others do.....Dont talk to your daddy this way.....

[Anonymous]

To EMSVET, this is JERRY FALWELL speaking, we are glad people like you are no longer involved in EMS. Atleast when you burned out, you realized it was time to get a new job. We have a very strong team and we strive for excellence. We take the good with the bad. :roll:

[Anonymous]

WOW, we should name this site as Old Grandma's Whinning site. This reminds me of the proverb "Failure in art turn critics" the people who are criticizing here are sure failures of EMS, who if they revel thier identities would open a whole new worm of cans about thier style of running calls and screw ups. From Platt, Lillard, Burns, Leagen, and all the rest, they are still the best people to work with in reference to providing patient care and personal rapport with patient as well as coworkers. SO STOP WHINNING LIKE OLD GRANDMA'S :razz:

[Anonymous]

This is hilarious. How anybody in EMS can attack Stuart Platt, John Lillard, and the like is beyond me. Ask anybody in the fire service who they would want staffing the truck if something happened to them and 60% would tell you Lillard (with Winhorn being his partner) and the other 40% would say Platt. We've dealt with these men for years, seen them in action on scenes and know that #1 the job is going to be done in as most professional a manner as possible, and #2 they aren't going to get the Paragod syndrome that most of you newbie jacklegs do.

Lexington County has some very good paramedics (Lillard,Hammond, Platt, Shull, Burns, Chavis, Lindler, Haltiwanger, leagon, and Hentz come to mind. There's a few others.) but it also has a bunch of couch jockies who have an overly inflated sense of their abilities. Then there's the couple who I'd refuse to let them treat me if my leg was amputated and bleeding to death.

[Anonymous]

I have worked with Lillard in 3 diffrent countys and he is one of the best all around paramedics I have seen. Even with his hand sewn into his stomach, he could out perform most of the new guys.

[Anonymous]

THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH CAN REMEMBER UNIT 9 BEING MOVED TO STA. 10 WITH UNIT 5 GOING TO HOLLOW CREEK JUST SO HIS FAVORITE BUDDIES CAN COME AND PLAY HEARTS WHILE ON DUTY. YOUR TALKIG ABOUT THE KING OF MICRO MANAGEMENT HIMSELF. REMEMBER WHY HE'S NOT A SHIFT SUPERVISOR ANY MORE? THATS YOUR BUDDY.

Itchy....I've been around long enough to remember the card playing and cook-outs held at Sta. 10 for the selected few hunting buddies of Mr. Burns. I too also remember why he isn't a shift supervisor any longer. The only suprise there was why'd it take so long.......guess you could ask that also about Mr. Hopkins?

[Anonymous]

the reason lcems is so short staff and running basic units is because they have **** on so many people, if all the paramedics that live in lexington county worked for lcems you would never have a open slot, as for burns and hopkins these are two men i have learned much from, and have respect for, and there's not a damn one of you that can out do me on any ems call, if you want to see a real supervisor at work lets look at plant or "can of possum", how many good people has she run off ? i have been gone for 3 years and would not work for such a suck ass place again. after all you have t. drake running crew chief what else could you need? :D

[Anonymous]

Yeah no joke...lately all you hear....County Unit such and such....We need ALS backup...then you have 2 trucks tied up on one call any by the time that ALS truck gets there they could be at the E.R. .....Look here Hoss.....Or Goatsucker...Iblowgoats..whatever you wanna be called...You do not ever refer to Plant as a can of opossum again...Who cares who runs off....She is a nice person and would do anything for you...so you can take your cup of goat milk and shove it up your anal cavity.... Your making yourself sound like the infamous PARA-GODS That were fired from LCEMS.....So do us all a favor and dont ever put no silly crap like that on this website again....Thanks....

[JerrysWorld]

It would seem that LCEMS is just experiencing some growing pains. My understanding is that LCEMS has gone from about 50 employees to over 100 employees. That in it self can be very stressful. But remember, we are not volunteers.. We are paid to do a service, as long as ever one strives to do the best job they can... Lessons can be learned from every mistake no matter how big or small. So it is up to each and every one of us to apply what we learn either from in-service or on the streets. Everyone has something they dislike about this job... Whether it is a person, pt, or station 10 paperwork. (Hi Dalton)... I happen to really love this job and look forward to every shift... My only gripe is not running calls... Rotating shifts would be nice... I will catch hell for saying that!


"Take care of yourself and each other"

[Anonymous]

Well Well I here so many bad things about people the funniest one is for you people to still beat down B.BURNES (yes that is the correct spelling for the rest of you please try to get it right) Anyway I think all of you can stop the beat down he is as low as he can get from where he once was. I bet you all one thing he doesn't regret one single thing he did!!! I worked for him and hated it for 3 yrs or so but when I learned all he wanted from you was to do what was right I loved it. When my wife had my first child he didn,t only come by to vist but brought her flowers and other gifts.. Ya'll just let me know any body else that has done that for any of you that still work EMS. And I see there are other people IE (smokestain) aka todd poole man you have been around but you have never worked on that side of the fence!!! Anyway I think we need to hire back some of the greats that were lost ----- Decker,Semones,Crosby,Dennison,Vinson

[Anonymous]

Things happen and everything can't be perfect all of the time. I think very highly of the skilled paramedics, intermediates and emts that work for the county. You don't get paid enough for what you have to put up with. I also think it would be nice to have some of the great ones that we have lost back, but until there is better pay and less he said she said then it won't happen. It would also help if you could get all relevent information about a call from the dispatchers, there are good ones and bad ones there too.

[Anonymous]

but when I learned all he wanted from you was to do what was right I loved it.

So one can take from that he was a "do as I say not as I do" supervisor?


Anyway I think we need to hire back some of the greats that were lost -----Decker,Semones,Crosby,Dennison,Vinson

I couldn't agree more.....depending on how far you want to go back you can even add White, Wingard, Culley, Bledsoe, Logan, Sebring (ok I know a couple are still there either part or full time but even they have higher agenda's) to the fine list you already have. Some were lost to the ideas of greener grass. The majority of the best have left for higher positions/responsibilities. Which completely leads us back to the endless circle of what is wrong with EMS in general....not just LCEMS. This isn't just a problem plaguing Lexington County but state and even nationwide.

[Anonymous]

All good points, however the Coroner pronounces people dead not EMS. That is why they are called the Coroner. EMS Chick buy a Websters and look it up.

[Anonymous]

the Coroner pronounces people dead not EMS


I'M NOT SURE WHO YOU ARE BUT APPEARANTLY YOU DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT EMS. ARE YOU GOING TO SIT THERE AND TELL ME THAT A DOCTOR CANNOT PRONOUNCE PEOPLE DEAD. I HOPE YOU WILL BE SMART ENOUGH TO ANSWERE THIS AS "YES".. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE AS EMS WORKERS HAVE A STANDING ORDER TO FOLLOW, WRITTEN BY A DOCTER(CARROLL) THAT STATES THAT WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE POWER TO PRONOUNCE PEOPLE DEAD. AFTER ALL WE DO WORK UNDER A PHYSICIAN AND HIS LISCENSE.[/quote]

[Anonymous]

Alright Scott at least get your spelling right!! I mean look at all the people that read this thing.. At least let Cindy look at it for you. What you say is right but you make the rest of us look bad I mean you misspelled DOCTOR I love ya!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Ok guys how dumb can we get ???? What the hell does a signal 9 mean ???? they are dead....thats why the coroner asks for time recived and time of the signal 9....Get Smarter guy dont bring that weak game in here

[Anonymous]

And I see there are other people IE (smokestain) aka todd poole man you have been around but you have never worked on that side of the fence!!!
Hate to break your heart, but I'm not Poole. Wrong end of the county. ;-)

[Anonymous]

You people are missing the forest for the trees. No one doubts the tragic nature of this event. I am not second guessing, however, I do believe to let people to their jobs. Hind-sight is 20/20 as we all know my only point is that EMS should not have told the family that the young man was dead. Especially when he lived for another 7 days.

[Anonymous]

Alright Scott at least get your spelling right!! I mean look at all the people that read this thing.. At least let Cindy look at it for you. What you say is right but you make the rest of us look bad I mean you misspelled DOCTOR I love ya!!!!!!!



please forgive me. after all, i'm just a dumb paramedic. what do i know. by the way, it is spelledcyndi[/quote]

[Anonymous]

I'm an EMT from hundreds of miles away and I stumbled across this forum when a friend asked my opinion about it. After reading all of these messages, I felt compelled to put my two cents in. I've been in EMS for 5 1/2 years, and I'll be the first to admit that it's not an easy job. We're not miracle-workers and we sure as hell aren't God. We save some and unfortunately we lose some. That's the way it is. We're not perfect. No one is. No matter what job field you're in, no one goes on without making any mistakes ever. In EMS though, you're dealing with lives which makes everything that much more important and that much more stressful. We try and many times, just trying isn't good enough. You need to really know what you are doing. Not many people can do this type of work and even less will be really great at it. But NO ONE is going to be perfect. No matter what... you will NEVER make EVERYONE happy. Someone will always have a complaint about something you've done, or haven't done for that matter.

When someone dies, there are always the "what if's" and there is always critiqueing, which is good to a point, but bashing people when you weren't there is not the way to go about things. There are always more sides to the story and as time goes on, the story will change and you'll hear different versions. The fact of the matter is...nothing's going to change what happened that night. You can't go back in time, you just need to move on and learn from your mistakes. I don't know the parties involved that night, and you may think that I'm not familiar with your county and don't know what I'm talking about, but I do know EMS. Fighting about a call and dragging it out will not help. I've been there, done that with my own agency and neighboring agencies. The best solution is for the people who were there that night to sit down and go through the entire call. Discuss everything that happened. Talk about what was good about it and what could be improved. Then you come up with solutions and change protocols if necessary and then you MOVE ON!!!!!!

I've been on calls that I wish I could forget and I'll be the first to admit that I've made mistakes. I wish I never made them, and I've learned from them. Things happen. I'm sure there are better things to worry about rather than who's vehicle is where and who's hunting or playing hearts with who. Instead of ripping each other apart, why don't you try to come up with solutions to problems like your policies and staffing issues and actually help.

To the people who aren't in EMS...try going to school and working in EMS and then come back to talk and let's see if you change your tune. It's so easy to point fingers at the other guy and say what you think they should have done, but you'll never really know until you are in their place. Every situation is different. On some calls, you have to improvise and the text book answers aren't always the best ones for that situation. You do what you think is right at that moment. And that decision may mean life or death, but you have to make it.

When it comes to staff...I've worked with some of the best and I've worked with some, well to be nice, they weren't exactly "stellar". But sitting around and shooting emails back and forth complaining about them isn't going to make my job any better. So stop complaining and get up and do something about it. When you start pointing fingers, there is always going to be someone on the other side waving their middle one right back at you, and you'll get no where.

Alright, this was going to be a short reply, but it ended up being a novel. Just please, people, stop your bickering because speaking from experience, it gets old fast.

[Anonymous]

Experience ??? Get a Real Patch First...then come talk...

[Anonymous]

As far as I know Mr. Platt left station 10 and proceeded to the opposite side of the county to avoid "being caught up in that bull s--t". The first patients were removed from the scene 80 minutes after arrival leaving a part time EMT on the scene with no equipment. As for cleaning up your truck, that is all he is good for. And for who ever hopes to look up and see him at his head, understand he will need a ladder. You really need to know all the facts. such as the trauma surgeon stating if he had been at the hospital sooner, "we possibly could have relieved the ICP". The person who thinks God wanted him, reconsider your thought. Did God want the civilian in Irag to come home when his head was sawed off. Think about it. I'm really proud of Leagon defending LCEMS. I wonder if this was done on one of the nights he called in because of any of his lame dick excuses. Keep it up Scott you are the man. And Spanky, we hear all of the stories of how you have Newberry County EMS in your back pocket and what a great job you do there. Why not the same in Lexington County. Quit calling for ALS for chest pain two months ago. Bottom line is the system failed Platt knew what was going on and because of his lack of skill or knowledge he messed up. Does FAILURE TO ACT, FAILURE TO PROVIDE PROPER CARE mean anything to anyone. As far as most of the people that have left look at their PSF.

[Anonymous]

Way to go, nothing but fact. Let me tell you the way Platt acts. He's done nothing wrong and I agree. What about the other day when the basic truck needed a patient intubated called for the helicopter, all he was concerned with was the times. If he is such a GREAT paramedic why didn't he just intubate the patient and send them on the ground. Must have been busy looking at his watch. By the way Stu he had bilateral bleeds to the head. OH YEAH, he's still alive. Great Job, atleast you responded to this one. What's the difference? Can I say PROBATION!
It ain't over yet!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

As a lex. co. employee I would like to point out none of you are held here
against your will. Saluda co. & Richland co. would love to have you come work for them & we'd love to see you go! Keep your whinning in the family & stop posting it here for the world to see! This doesn't change any-
thing. But your positive actionsin the service might. :D

[Anonymous]

THIS STARTED OUT TO BE ABOUT AT WRECK THAT HAPPENED ON ST PAULS CHURCH RD ON 04-16-04 BUT NOW IT IS A BITCH SECTION FOR LEX CO EMS. SO LET'S GET BACK TO THE REASON THIS WAS PUT ON HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT NIGHT BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WAS THERE OR REQUESTED TO BE THERE!!! SO LET ME SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. THE CALL CAME IN AS A 1050I HEADON. WHEN THEY GOT ON SCENE ONE VEH WAS TURNED SIDEWAYS OFF THE ROAD AND THE OTHER VEH WAS IN THE ROADWAY. FIRE SERVICE REPORTED CONFIRMED ENTRAPPMENT. THE 17 Y/O MALE WAS THE ONE TRAPPED THAT WAS OFF THE ROAD. THE REQUEST WAS MADE FOR A HELICOPTER. THE TWO OTHER PT'S (ONE 7 Y/O AND 30 ISH Y/O) WAS IN THE ROAD VEH NOT ENTRAPPED. THE BASIC EMT WENT BY THE 17 Y/O AND STATED THAT HE WAS DEAD AND THERE WAS NOTHING TO BE DONE FOR HIM. HE DID NOT EVEN PUT HIS HANDS ON THE PT AT THAT TIME. FIRE SERVICE ON THE SCENE WAS WITH THE PT AND STATED HE WAS NOT DEAD! THE OTHER CREW MEMBER WAS WITH THE OTHER VEH GETTING THEM OUT. THEY PUT THE SON IN BACK OF THE UNIT AND LEFT HIM THERE WITH A BY-STANDER THAT WAS NOT CERTIFIED IN NOTHING!! THEN THE FATHER WAS BROUGHT INTO THE BACK OF THE UNIT. GOING BACK TO THE ENTRAPPED VEH THE EMT FINALLY PUT O2 MASK ON HIM. THE FIRE SERVICE WAS TRYING TO CUT THE PT OUT OF THE VEH THIS WHOLE TIME BUT THE NEED THE LONGER RAM SO THE REQ IT FROM STA 15. BY THIS TIME THE FAMILY MEMBERS HAS GOTTEN TO THE SCENE. THE EMT TOOK THE MASK OFF THE BOYS FACE AND STATED HE TO THE FATHER THAT HE WAS DEAD. THEN HE WENT TO GET A SHEET FROM THE UNIT AND A FIRE PERSONNAL STOPPED HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS STILL BREATHING. NOW THIS IS APPROX 15 MINS INTO THIS CALL. LIFEREACH WAS ON THE GROUND AND THE LR CREW WENT TO THE SCENE. THE CREW STILL HAS NOT CALL FOR AN ALS UNIT TO ASST WITH THE THREE CRITIAL PT'S. THERE WAS AN ALS UNIT AT STA 10 THAT WAS BEING SENT TO MURRAY TOWN FOR STAND BY. THEY REQUESTED TO GO TO THE SCENE BUT THE SUPERVISOR SAID NO. THE ALS UNIT RODE LESS THAN 3 MILES AWAY FROM THE SCENE. IT TOOK LITTLE OVER 40 MINS TO EXTR THE PT OUT OF THE VEH. AT THIS TIME THE OTHER TWO CRITIAL PTS WERE STILL ON SCENE AND NO ALS WAS OTHER THAN LR CREW TRYING TO CARE FOR THE BOY ENTRAPPED. THE FIRE SERVICE REQ ANOTHER UNIT WITH ALS PER LIFEREACH CREW. ANOTHER HELICOPTER WAS REQ FOR THE TWO OTHER PEOPLE. ALL THREE PT'S WERE TAKEN TO RMH. THE FIRE SERVICE HAD TO GO TO THE FAMILY'S HOUSE FOR THE BOY (THAT WAS TOLD HE WAS DEAD) AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT HE WAS ALIVE AND ON THE WAY TO RMH.

THIS WAS A OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED BUT THERE IS STILL MORE THAT HAS NOT BEEN SAID AND MIGHT NOT EVER GET OUT!?! BUT MY QUESTIONS ARE: WHY DIDN'T THE SUPERVISOR SHOW UP FOR THE CALL WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED? WHY DID THE EMT TELL THE FATHER THAT HE WAS DEAD WHEN HE WAS NOT? (NO STRIP ON THE BOY) WHY WAS THE 7 Y/O LEFT IN THE UNIT WITH A NO CERTIFIED PERSON? WHY WAS IT QUESTIONED WHEN ANOTHER ALS UNIT WAS REQ BY THE FIRST UNIT?

THESE ARE QUESTION THAT STILL HAS NOT BEEN ANSWERED. AND LIKE ALL WHY QUESTIONS THEY MIGHT NOT EVER BE ANSWERED. BUT THERE IS A LOT EMS OATHES THAT WAS BROKEN! THIS CALL WAS A BAD CALL BUT IT COULD HAVE DONE BETTER IF EVERYONE WOULD HAVE DONE THEIR JOB LIKE THEY WERE SURPOSE TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!

THE PEOPLE THAT DID NOT DO THEIR JOB THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH. KNOWING THAT THEY COULD HAVE SAVED THAT BOYS LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Thank You for bringing 95% of the truth out. This had to be done and I agree with you completely.

[Anonymous]

ANYONE EVER HEARD OF HIPPA?

[Anonymous]

The call you are talking about, "the other day" Platt was on scene with us and we (as an intermediate crew) would have intubated but the kids jaw was clenched down, and he was extremely combative (from the head injury). He needed RSI, thats why he was airlifted to RMC. And as far as "bilateral head bleeds" BULLSH*T, he had two scalp abrasions. If you really want the truth, ask the people that ran the call.

[Anonymous]

To the Person who Wrote the Truth, How did you know this?? this is something i have needed to hear, the boy was someone i knew, and well i am a county kid... but the fact of it is, is that, things need to change. if not it could be one of us that is falsey called DOA... Those people needed to get fired, they didn't nothing that was taught to them in there class, and they need to learn there stuff, i am glad that i am not that was in that car and called DOA and i wasnt'... the county needs to get people working for them that they know what to do.

[Anonymous]

First - you need to know what your talking about - the heading says Superbison - then you talk about T Drake - this is all in the same paragraph. First I'm not worried about T Drake being a crew cheif - first she's never at work - don't think I've ever seen her a full week. Second - what was it exactly Hopkins and Plant taught you - how to get locks installed on EMS doors - how the golden shower really works - OHHH did I hit a sore spot ! Thought so! You know why they had to build a new fire station? Those notches that was put on all those old fire stations - yelp made the structure weak. ( to many markings ) I don't think anyone in the county has learned anything from any INSTRUCTOR from LCEMS except for maybe what not to do next time......OH !! and by the way what's so wrong with how LCEMS does it these days ? Is that better than toking a joint before a call or smoking your last cigarette just after sex with your partner? :twisted: or just let me stop I know someone is already gettin their feelings stepped on you really learned something from Hopkins - WOW - can't imagine what that is....was it the CPR trick where if no air in flip'em over you got the wrong hole or was it you better be here for 18 months of IST ?? 18 months thought is was 12 in a year ...what do I know...or was it OHHH I know - it's when he screams SHUT UP YOU BASTARDS...yea bet that was it or cusses the lords name or uses the F word to teach. Boy would the labor board love to have that one recorded.
But since he's going to quit in 6 months 3 months 3 weeks 2 weeks 1 year when they find his paperwork, when they get it straightened out June, July 2 weeks, 6 months, soon do I detect a lie somewhere....anyway bet the bees will be swarming over this one...anyway stop me....we've got Hopkins name in a superbison subject....nobody remembers him as a supervisor....thanks...now back to the superbison issue....they don't have to what you want them to do...their agenda involves running errands for the fire service, Midlands, getting into your personnal business, and it's your fault -----------you as a service ---------you tell them everything and their agenda is set-- to set you up....as if they worked for this information--but you want the attention so bad you will sell your buddy out. And think they will be your friend and you can be in their click and wash their truck and check their truck off and fill their truck up with gas and wash their truck and get their groceries and then they lower the hatchet on you...YOUR FAULT---no one is their friend...no one...don't believe it, just wait till you have to go on the carpet, your on your on. WELP NUFF SAID

[Anonymous]

QUESTIONS ARE: WHY DIDN'T THE SUPERVISOR SHOW UP FOR THE CALL WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED? WHY DID THE EMT TELL THE FATHER THAT HE WAS DEAD WHEN HE WAS NOT? (NO STRIP ON THE BOY) WHY WAS THE 7 Y/O LEFT IN THE UNIT WITH A NO CERTIFIED PERSON? WHY WAS IT QUESTIONED WHEN ANOTHER ALS UNIT WAS REQ BY THE FIRST UNIT?

" The Truth " if you know so much about what happened and this is the " TRUTH" why do you have questions? Were you not there? If you were there then what did you radio tell you - no supervisor in route - supervisor in route ? ALS crew in route no ALS crew in route...Why did the mother and father just go home and leave their dead son lying in the back of the truck ? So the bystander could watch him? Why didn't you jump in the back with the 7y/o and take over? Sounds like you should have known what to do correct? If you knew the scene was in such a mess why didn't you fix it then - why fix it now? Did you not have a Nextel and call someone and say OH MY GOD THIS SCENE IS A MESS OH DEAR LET'S CALL 911 AND GET SOME HELP or just stand there and say OH YEA SOMEONE WILL BE FIRED OVER THIS AND FOR THE DEAD BOY IN THE BACK LET'S LEAVE HIM WITH THE 7 Y/O AND THE BYSTANDER AND I'LL GO TYPE ON THE WEB PAGE AND FIX IT. just wondering don't get pissy

[Anonymous]

Thank You "TRUTH". Finally someone else there. We loved him much. And GUEST with the bilat bleeds, you are an idiot, ever hear of nasal tube., keep protecting him maybe you can kiss his ass in jail, now you are the moron. But this is my SWAN SONG, THE TRUTH IS FINALLY HERE, .so ADIOUS, BYE BYE, Shalom! I can only hope no one in Mr. Platts family ever needs a real Paramedic due too how everone LUVS him. I doubt if even then he will respond. OH on another subject completly, did anyone know BIG STU has been helping Ms. Lucas with the Larry Harrison campaign. Check it out! Hey Stu How's Kippie doing? :oops:

[Anonymous]

CHECK YOUR SOP, YOU DONT PUT IN A NASAL TUBE ON A HEAD INJURY PT.

[Anonymous]

And I see there are other people IE (smokestain) aka todd poole man you have been around but you have never worked on that side of the fence!!!

are you p2 from

[Anonymous]

:D CAN'T WE JUST SIT BACK AND THINK ABOUT THE GOOD ASPECTS OF OUR SYSTEM. LETS FOCUS ON THE POSSITIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR SERVICE. WE HAVE BAD EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE GREAT EMPLOYEES AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. SOUND LIKE EVERY SINGLE WORK PLACE IN THE COUNTRY? IT'S TIME WE JOIN TOGETHER AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND THE SYSTEM WE REPRESENT(MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY WE SERVE). WE CAN MAKE LEX CO EMS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK IF WE COULD CUT OUT ALL THIS BULL SH--, CUT OUT ALL THE BACK STABBIN, CUT OUT ALL THE NAME CALLING, AND CUT OUT ALL THE FINGER POINTING. WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY OVER THR YEARS AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, BUT WE CAN IMPROVE TREMENDOUSELY IF WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE OUR FAULTS, BUT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE GOOD PARTS MORE THAN WORRING ABOUT TRIVIA. SO, IN CONCLUSION: THANKS TO ALL THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE DEDICATED TO SERVING THE COUNTY CITIZENS. THIS MEANS LAW ENFORCMENT, FIRE SERVICE, AND EMS. LETS CONTINUE TO GROW JUST AS FAST AS OUR COUNTY IS GROWING. LETS JOIN TOGETHER AND MAKE THE BEST OF WHAT WE HAVE (TOGETHER)!!!!! TO ALL OF YOU WHO BITCH AND GRIPE ABOUT THIS COUNTY, AND TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE NOT TEAM PLAYERS, AND TO ALL OF YOU WHO FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELVES WHEN YOU BELITTLE SOMEONE ELSE, AND TO ALL OF YOU WHO DO NOT COME TO WORK EVERYDAY TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE: JUST REMEMBER, YOUR DAYS ARE LIMITED. THERE ARE MANY OTHER PLACES WHO WILL HIRE YOU. NO ONE IS HOLDING YOU HOSTIGE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THANKS TO THOSE WHO DEDICATE THIER LIFE TO SERVING AND SAVING LIVES. EMAIL ME WITH ANY POSSITIVE RESPONSES
PARAMETALMEDIC@AOL.COM LOVE YA ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Anonymous]

James is right everyone should work together to make Lexington County a better place to work., but lets not forget about the people behind the scene. Yes Fire Service and law enforcement help EMS but what about our dispatchers. Many times Lexington County dispatchers have given cpr instruction over the phone (something you will not get in Richlabd) and very seldom are they praised for "Saving" a life. WITH OUT QUALIFIED dispatchers NONE of you would ever get a call for service. I can only think of one time in the last 3 months that dispatch has recieved recognition from a paramedic. If you only spent time in a County Council meeting you would know what I am talking about. Mind you dispatch is not perfect neither is anything else in this world. But PLEASE keep in mind Dispatch IS THE FIRST FIRST RESPONDER!!!!! Lets all work together to force Lexington County to raise the bar for higher standards. :roll:

[Anonymous]

Could you please post you opinion in the first responder catagory. This is for the suberbison issue. Or I'm sure that's what I saw on the topic. :?:
And don't even start with the EMD over the phone stuff - anyone ever had a Sig 32 that was a cardiac arrest ! or a Sig 9 cold all day long with the family giving that last breath ! just wondering... :twisted:

[Anonymous]

Thank god I can read some thoughtful and positive responses. As short a time I have been with Lexington, I have been very impressed with the quality of care our PAR. AND EMT'S bring to this county. For the most part we should all be proud. God knows we are not perfect, but some who write on this feel they are. There isn't a PAR. or EMT I wouldn't trust to give me very good care. We have the best, there is no doubt about that, I would put our best against anyone out there. But this isn't my dad is better then your dad. This all stems from a very tragic accident that happened, so instead of making it worse by this idiotic behaviour, lets look at how we all can stop this happening again.
Now the discontents out there will continue their negative outbreaks most of them gutless by not using their names, so why would anyone listen to you, have a little courage, obviously you don't work for lexington county for everyone here has courage, so don't waste our time or space here by not writing your name.
We all at times have problems with others but lets try to be adults and handle them like adults and if you have a problem confront that person instead of hiding behind this wall.
Findlay Wihlidal

[Anonymous]

Hate to break your heart, but I'm not Poole. Wrong end of the county. ;-)[/
are you photo2

[Anonymous]

First Aid Bandit if you think that you can do any better with a screaming family member that is trying to help the person they love then come on down and try it. It gets really hard when you have someone that is not breathing and then you have to tell the EMS unit how to get there because they can't read a mapbook. I agree there are bad dispatchers and there are good dispatchers, but give the ones that work hard to do their job right some credit. You know who you would rather hear on the radio and the ones that you dread the rest of the shift when you hear them key up. Things are not going to change with the bad dispatchers unless people on the road step up and say something.

[Anonymous]

First Aid Bandit if you think that you can do any better with a screaming family member that is trying to help the person they love then come on down and try it. It gets really hard when you have someone that is not breathing and then you have to tell the EMS unit how to get there because they can't read a mapbook. I agree there are bad dispatchers and there are good dispatchers, but give the ones that work hard to do their job right some credit. You know who you would rather hear on the radio and the ones that you dread the rest of the shift when you hear them key up. Things are not going to change with the bad dispatchers unless people on the road step up and say something.

A - L - R - I - G - H - T....nothing like changing the subject DISPATCH101 -maybe the 101 at the end of your title may tell you something. Now, your telling the world on this page that the patient was not breathing - let me think for a minute what that means - OH - means no life. My mistake, I thought this entire page was setup because the patient was breathing - NOW - was he breathing or not - you say they were not breathing - OK got ya ! Now your saying they can't read a map book.

Then like I said earlier - get your DISPATCH page up and running this is not about good dispathers and bad dispathers - ems has had all of them too...can't resist the man in uniform - that would be a good start for site - how many dispathers that can't concentrate on what's going on for trying to find out what's going on....boy that ought to keep you pretty busy..

But remember the facts - you say the patient was NOT breathing - there is a difference - you either breath to have life - you don't breath - well I'll let you fiqure it out.

Another thought for you site, maybe you can have Dispatch Alumni - and maybe a marriage counsler or lawyer or maybe Dr. Ruth could add a thought or two. I know this site had Dr. Pepper that would be close enough, you wouldn't know the difference. It's about the same as the information you'd get over the radio. Close but not correct.

So bye bye - c ya - and we will remember you were caring for a patient that was NOT breathing. Thank you. ( just look above you said it ) get mad with yourself.

[Anonymous]

You all are behaving like a bunch of kindergarteners. You act like none of you have ever made mistakes before. There is more to life to worry about than who is or is not showing up for work--T. Drake has had a lot of health issues since last November. She has been with the County for almost two years, before November she was at work every shift. Why don't you people worry about what YOU are doing for, or to, this county. How many others of you are hitting on your patients and asking for telephone numbers? Or, hitting on your partners?

If we all would just maintain a professional attitude, such that we go to work to do our job to the best of our ability, then maybe this county would be a lot better.

[Anonymous]

Fed-up what is so professional about you. You just told the world that we are getting patients numbers and I think I missed your professional point.

Did you want someone to take a poll on exactly who's doing that? Sounds like some of that senior activity thinking Fed-Up. And if TDrake is having alot of medical problems then I would think that she has not made it to work for a solid pay week.

Well, let me ponder a minute, OK I think you can be out and be counted at work Ok I get it. Another one of those thinking points, just like how many people are getting patients numbers. Way to go. Let the dirt out.

[Anonymous]

:D HEY GUYS IT'S ME AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO APPOLIGISE FOR NOT INCLUDING THE FINE FOLKS DOWN AT COMMUNICATIONS("COUNTY") IN MY LAST LETTER. IN FACT THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND IN MANY CASES HAVE SAVED A LIFE BEFORE US EMS GUYS HAVE PEELED OUR LARGE BUTTS :shock: OUT OF THE RECLINER WE WERE SITTING IN. ITS EASY FOR US TO GET FRUSTRATED WITH THEM SOMETIMES BUT THEY HAVE A JOB THAT I WOULD NEVER WANT. ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY CAN DO A BETTER JOB(LIKE I ONCE THOUGHT) SHOULD GO DOWN THERE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND TRY IT. I DID IT ONE NIGHT AND ITS NOT EXACTLY EASY(IF EVEN POSSIBLE) TO GET INFORMATION FROM SOMEONE WHO JUST FOUND A FAMILY MEMBER NOT BREATHING. NOT TO MENTION THAT IN THIS DAY IN THE CELL PHONE ERA, THEY MAY RECIEVE 20 OR MORE CALLS THAT THEY HAVE TO ANSWER FOR JUST ONE WRECK! KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB DOWN THERE IN COMMUNICATIONS :!:

[Anonymous]

JAMES THIS IS YOU BIG SISTER HERE, STOP A-- KISSING. DON'T TELL ME YOU DON'T GET AS PIST OFF AT DISPATCH AS THEY GET AT YOU, YOUR A LIER. AS FOR THIS N2BATE AND FIRSTAIDE WHAT EVER THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME SKELETONS OF THEIR OWN THAT THEY DON'T WANT OUT :twisted: . THEIR TO BUSY DIGGING UP THE DIRT ON OTHERS, JUST THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOUR IN EMS LONG ENOUGH EVERY ONE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR LIFE EVEN THE PERSONAL ONE. JUST WAIT, IT WILL BE KNOWN WHO THEY ARE. JUST REMEMBER WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND AND EVERY DOG HAS THEIR DAY ;-) LOVE YA, JAMES MEAN IT!!! :idea:

[Anonymous]

I was advised of this forum by a friend I work with here in Lexington County EMS. I read most of the posting and could understand the frustrations that had been expressed - then I read the childish rantings of the individual identified as "FirstAidBandit" (is that in stealer of EMS supplies?). My initial reaction was not to respond and if the "opinion" expressed had been, at least somewhat, professional I would have let it ride...but the writer had to embark on a personal attack. Worst of all by not identifying him/her-self took the anonymity of the posting to pursue gutless, honorless and courageless character assasination. (Anytime you want to talk to me directly I will be more than happy to oblige.) James Segroves had the courage to express an opinion and post his real name - I salute him for this. "FirstAidBandit" you, however, are like all parasites swimming in the sea of mediocrity. You will achieve nothing and instead of accepting any personal responsibility for this will be willing to blame anyone (or anything) for that failure. You will wallow in your own misery and take every opportunity to try to pull people down to your own low level instead of pulling yourself up to theirs. You will never be considered an equal because you will be shown to be "posure"....all show and no go. As I leave EMS there will be some who liked me and some who did not...there will be some who believe I was good at what I did and some who beleive was not nearly as good as I thought I was.....but I will, always, respect those who speak their minds to me...and not talk behind my back .......wallowing in their own fear and paranoia.

Good luck to all in Public Safety - Commo, Fire, EMS, Police who day in and day out do the best they can and have always accepted the personal responsibility of a very difficult job.

As for "FirstAidBandit" - you will continue to be the well needed comic releif - with no professional standing.....thanks for the reason to laugh.

[Anonymous]

I was first directed to this bulletin board to follow the discussions involving law enforcement agencies within the county. Needless to say that got old pretty fast.

After not having been here for a while, I was told by a fellow officer of the "new" EMS "scandal" being viciously debated here. Needless to say I had to come back and be a little nosey. Perhaps you say I shouldn't care or be nosey. Perhaps you're right. However for those who don't know me, know me through others or didn't work with me long enough to know, I truly care about EMS in Lexington County. LCEMS has always been and always will be "home" to me. It's where as a young man entering the work force I began a career in Public Safety. Just like many of you now. A fresh faced innocent basic trying to find my way. Thankfully with the help of many of the fine men and women who have graced LCEMS with their expertise and knowledge, I grew professionally. There are many, many former and current medics whom I owe alot of thanks. The first would go to Tom and Hopkins. Without their guidance, instruction and knowledge I never would have made it. Some of these medics are now your supervisors and dark shirts. Platt, Plant, David Shull, (whom was my FTO), Lillard, Nolff. Some are no longer there. Force, Bowen, Rawl, Ruff, Seibert (daddy Seibert), Culley, Hunter. God knows I am leaving so many out and if they are reading please don't be offended. Some of your current Seniors were my EMT partners, those whom I remember when they first started in EMS. I also learned from each of these. But if there was one man, one paramedic, one supervisor to whom I would say I owe everything it would be Mike Drennon. I have never worked for a man with the leadership abilities that he had. Every goal that I set and subsequently reached, he had a hand in helping me accomplish it.

Where am I going with this? First, you have made some serious accusations against some of the finest paramedics this service has. Secondly, I can say that each of them is only human. Every one of them would tell you mistakes they learned on the way, me included. Just like you, me and that God forsaken "basic" crew out in Hollow Creek that fateful night. Always remember that a paramedic is only as good as his own basic skills.

I’ve personally been involved in a couple of closely similar situations and would be happy to discuss any of them with you. If you've been in this business long enough you know that you are just one split-second decision away from catastrophe.

What I can also say about each of those medics is that they wouldn't anonymously castrate others in a public forum for a call that went south. Maybe it's because they have more class. Maybe it's because of the experience in knowing it easily could be them. Maybe it's knowing that by doing such a faceless and ******ly act does nothing to help solve the problem; it only creates more problems and division.

Say what you will behind your cloak of darkness and cute names given for your slanderous posts, but until you are willing to step forward and show your yellow face, you haven't the first shred of a monkey's butt hair of credibility in anything you wish to "expose".

If those of you expressing your opinion on this board have "issues", be brave enough to state your identity in tackling the problems that will address your issues to make the service better. Otherwise there is absolutely no credence in your accusations. It's like an anonymous "tip" complaint vs. a complaint from "Mrs. Jones, who lives next door to the suspected meth-lab and has done so for the past 22 years".

It also plants seeds of doubt about the accuser. Maybe they aren't quite up to snuff in their own confidence and abilities. Maybe they don't even work in EMS (which I feel is the most likely case). Where did they get their information? Were they even there? You see nobody knows when you're not man/woman enough to identify yourself.

No one can say, no matter who they are, what they “would have done” in the exact same situation. Unless you were there and directly involved you will never know nor have any right to say “I would have or could have”. The only people who ask those questions, and only in a quality assurance type of atmosphere are Dr. Carroll, Tom and Patti. Anyone can play Monday morning quarterback but explain to me who, what and how that will help this situation? I was asked by fellow employees who told me of this thread what did I think of what happened out there and I point blank said, “I don’t know, I wasn’t there”. I didn’t see what that crew did. I’m not in the same circumstances. I didn’t hear and feel what they did. There is no way I could begin to offer judgment in what did happen based on limited anonymous information.

It’s like the recent police shooting in Sumter where the young man was shot by the officers who had chased him. He “supposedly” was holding an infant while firing upon the officers. He was shot and killed. The question was posed should they have shot him? How would anyone know unless they are in the exact same situation and face the same circumstances as those officers did?

Those I worked with right before I came to Lex. PD. will remember this. Take care of your patients, your calls, your partner and your truck. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Remember the old biblical cliche about those who live in glass houses. Let the system run. Do your part and tend to those responsibilities you have. If you're in Chapin and get sent to 302 for standby with trucks in Congaree, Pelion and Swansea; get in the damn truck, get on I-26 East and quit whining and crying.

Regardless, whoever you are, you should be ASHAMED. You should have more respect for the boy; More respect for the family; More respect for the system; More respect for the crew and most importantly; More respect for yourself.

Respectfully yours,

C. W. (Wally) Bledsoe Jr.
NREMT-P
cbledsoe@sc.rr.com

[SwanseaEMTGirl]

I agree with John. Everyone is inititled to have an opinion and no one should be able to say if that opinion is right or wrong...but there is also a way to address your thought/opinion. If you are going to make bold accusations like those made on the post above, either be big enough to put your name on your post or even more grown-up...discuss your thoughts/accusations with the person they are about. Everyone should be allowed to voice their opinoin but come on guys...grow up. :???:

There is a small quote somewhere on this page that says something about the HIPPA law...I think some of the people posting on this site need to read our privacy policy/ HIPPA policy again and think about how much info you are giving out. How would you feel as a parent to know or by accident find out that the events leading to your child's or family member's injury/death/illness were being posted all over the internet?!?!?

Oh and by the way...This is Stacey Pierce

Congrats to all the graduating paramedic students...No more ALS backup for you! :D

[Anonymous]

YOU ALL NEED MORE MONEY! THE COUNTY PAYS YOU ALL WAY TOO LITTLE FOR THE JOB YOU DO. SOMEONE SHOULD MAKE THE COUNTY GIVE YOU ALL MORE MONEY FOR THE HARD STRESSFULL WORK YOU ALL DO.

[Anonymous]

UNTIL LEXINGTON PAYS YOU ALL BETTER MY JOB IS SECURE AND ALL OF OUR EMS UNITS ARE ADVANCE LIFE SUPPORT UNITS.

KEEP ON SWIMMING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER SO MY JOB SECURITY IS SAFE, SOUND, AND MUCH MORE REWARDING TO MY WALLET :roll:

[Anonymous]

As a few of you know i no longer work for lexington county due to something i messed up on my part and take full blame. I am typing this just to remind you that when you think thinks have gotten there worse or just plain suck hey take ny word for it they can get worse. Everyone has something they do good, maybe its not this job or their personalities suck but everyone has something, I see alot of the way people are being at the county and yes i know i did pick to but i would take it and smile (or at least try) i would trade with any of you to be working back at the lex-co. right now so if you want to swap let me know ( but put in a blue missle to tom first lol). I am at a loss not working around a bunch of you people, it was like a family even the new guys most of them we ran hard and pushed them but if they stayed and made it well you guys know. I'm just saying dont let all the little things get you down or pissed theres more good in things then bad and if things suck find the humor in it, theres allways some. just be happy your still there trust me I DO!!!. and just make sure you all wash your trucks orange down WINK WINK.... I loved every minute of it guys ill miss ya all. call if ya ever need anything even you meatsnack.... hey hayden whens the party? lol all take care and stop the madness (: Craig johnson

email: gonna have to change it but if ya want it its lexmedic@bellsouth.net

need to put an EX-lexmedicemployee@ lol cell is 600-3978 yall take care ill miss it there!!

[Anonymous]

one fast note some people on here has listed some people on here as how great they are and **** well look at the ones no know one recog. like tyler, hall, the gout himself, boland, what about them theres just alot of people out there that dont get the recog. they deserve if your gonna start pointing fingers, what has any of the ones being brought up over and over again done so great that some of these others couldnt ya well we know not all of us could bring in a tube everytime or get that iv when its needed, call for back-up alot but ya know everyone has there day those people arent doing some great feat all the time otheres are working here too and the ones doing good or great or hay lets just say dont hurt know one maybe they should be told good job there name on a metal plate or a prize instead of a popularity contest every month cause thats what it is, i know i said one fast note sorry but i think alot of you might agree any way one the final things that piss me of about not working there anymore is i just wanted to work a shift with hopkins once gotta be a riot of fun well take care and put in a vote for employee of the quarter for me, just make marmalade S**t NO just kidding btw seen him at amr good lord lol bye everyone
Craig

[Anonymous]

Dude, use spell check and above all proof read! Trying to figure your post out made my eyes hurt.

[Anonymous]

MAN HEY YALL. I WANTED TO BE LIKE EVERY BODY ELSE, AND GET IN ON SOME OF THIS CRYING AND MOANING. YOU SHOULD ALL REFER TO MY NEW TOPIC IN THE GENERAL FORUM, I AM BORED TOO. READ UP AND ENJOY. I AM SORRY TO HAVE WASTED ALL OF YOUR IMPORTANT TIME.(THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT WITH YOUR NOSE I A ALS OR BLS BOOK). THAT IS ABOUT ALL EVERYONE IN THIS AREA IS SAYING. YOUR MOUTH IS MOVING, BUT ITS LIKE NOTHING IS COMING OUT. WHO CARES. WHO CARES. WHO CARES. GO COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR OWN MISERABLE LIFE TO YOUR PARAKEET. IF YOU STILL HAVE THINGS TO SAY, THEN SAY IT TO SOMEONE, STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. IF THERES A PROBLEM WITH STUEY, HE WORKS RED DAYS AS YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW. SHUT UP AND CALL HIM. MY NUMBER IS ON THE PHONE LIST TOO. CALL ME IM LONELY. IDIOTS :vom:

[Anonymous]

wasnt gonna do it.....aint gonna do it....Oh hell, cant keep quiet anymore. First if you have never worked ems or at at least been involved from a first responder standpoint :finga: Second, I'm not putting my name up here yet, but I will. You see, I'm not hiding under a cloak of darkness but I think some folks are gutless and don't really want to tell their "friends" what they think. They'd rather feign friendship but cut them in the back. Just want to see what sort of rebuttal I receive before I expose myself. As far as who the great paramedics are, it's like every other business. There are many great ones who are recognized all the time, but unfortunately, many more go unnoticed. ie. Hall, Johnson, Boland. I'm not going to list the attributes of all the great medics here, but if my kid is hurt god please let, Hammond, Labbe, Kehl, Brathewaite, Lucas, Squires, Hall, Young and many others show up at my house and I'll know my kid gets their best regardless of the outcome. Any of the great ones I left out including Artie, Tyler and Billy, sorry I was typing fast and just wanted to finish my little diatribe. I just hope one day when I leave the business, I can say I was a third of the medic you all are, assuming I get that far. Oh, and by the way, Mr. Johnson, you may not be employed here but you will always be a Lexington County Paramedic in my book. Good luck dude.

[Anonymous]

Hey, n2bate do you still have your license tag?

[Anonymous]

Bitchewaite.....Good Medic??? Dream On...Little Miss Attitude

[craig johnson]

i know the second message i wrote was difficult to read i was just finishing up a meeting i was having with a "12 pack" of my friends and a few of there "relatives". We had been discussing the event that had transponded earlier the day before, and i was suprised you could read any of it, but anyway if it caused eye strain on some of you i appologize and a few of you... just think of it as i meant to do it.. just kidding bye guys see ya around...





http://www.animatedgif.net/cartoons/oscarg_e0.gif HHmmm i wonder what they have to offer, well whatever it is you know they repect there employees. have you ever known big bird or the count to complain?. might be something to learn there, a little loyalty,some HONESTY, commitment, i think you can fill in the rest

[Anonymous]

Can you people please shut up and let this s**t go. I have'nt been here long but i hear about this everytime i come to work. It is worse than a damn soap opera. I don't know Platt that well, but if he messed up then s**t he messed up. If he had it to do over again maybe he would have done differently or maybe not. That was his decision and it was his decison to make not yours. You don't know what you would have done because you were not there and neither was I. Now to this nonsense about people slandering other people. It is bad to know that I might work with you. You might be my partner on a truck. Damn should I put the knife in my back before I come to work. Or will you do it as you look me in the eyes and act like you are my friend and partner at work. Which I could guess you are doing. Be a man or woman and tell us how you feel in person. Do your job and let me and my fellow employees do theirs. whether we mess up or not we still have a job to do and it is to help people who are in need of medical attention. I am proud to be at Lexington County because I feel like I make a difference in peoples lives along with the rest of the people at LexCo.

[Anonymous]

Hate to break your heart, but I'm not Poole. Wrong end of the county. ;-)[/
are you photo2

Not Pete either ;-)

[Anonymous]

hmmmm

[Anonymous]

thats kinda like n2bate isnt it lilard, thats like you right you have two sides to every story at least you say one thing to peoples faces and another depending on who your around next, and cant even put your own name on here act like your everyones best friend then tell tom everything you can oh wait thats right its tim james who you say is you drinking buddy now right do you tell him that your gonna be the next superbison or director here at lexco. anyway fess up we all know its you or are your balls to old to do it you as*

[Anonymous]

hey! n2bate/lillard/"the next lex co supervisor" whoops! sorry lillard, didn't mean to let your cat out the bag. you told the story about your tag to one to many people. :twisted:

[Anonymous]

I watch this site with memories of real EMS, not this grade school bull. First let me clarify something to "goatman" and "guest". Get your facts straight, My tag read "9 em out" not "n2bate". He did work here for awhile but left to be a cop. But if it helps you to try and get a rise from me Please continue. But you really need to get much better, shoot I have family that says and does things to me worse then that. But remember when you are found out I"ll still be here so get all your stuff together.
Now about the "attacks" on people that had nothing to do with any of this. Shame on you. Most of you don't even know what you're talking about, just repeating stories you have heard. But then again if it makes you feel better, Continue!
Also "goatman" about Tim James and I being friends. We are and have been for many years. Hopefully one day you too will have A friend such as he. And me being the next "supervisor" you do realize I would have to take a pay cut to do this and not like you I'm really not into regressing.
Now many of you have identified many problems in LCEMS and I have a unique idea! Address some SOLUTIONS!
Oh I almost forgot. About me having Two stories. You are so right about that. If it saves someones feelings guess what, or maybe someones job! And you are right again if I see or hear something that is wrong, guess what, I admit I tell someone to correct it. I only know of one time a person continued doing the wrong and was asked to leave. Trust me, if anyone knows how to do things wrong I'm in the top Two. If you ever get a chance to see my PF it's about the size of a Columbia phonebook. And then again, guess what, IT'S MY JOB.
Well that's about it but if you would like to confront me face to face Please Call me. Your idenity will remain secret for a very long time. Cause you all know I'm LAZY but in your case keep up with me just for a week.
So Long and be Safe to all the employees of LCEMS that continue to serve without complaint and not getting sidetracked by this site. To all others Please Drink and Drive, Don't wear your seatbelts. Hope you get the drift.

[Anonymous]

If you are going to change your story twice on the same forum, Lillard, please at least change your style of typing. The last entry was the EXACT same style as the very first entry by n2bate. Gee, who is not being honest. :(

[Anonymous]

The female side of your family including daughters didnt think they were so old.

[Anonymous]

Howdy former co-workers, it's me again. Thought I'd lay low for a while until Lillard's post. I almost had a stroke when I read the following and thought I may need to clarify.


not "n2bate". He did work here for awhile but left to be a cop.

While not many have left EMS for Law Enforcement, I can assure you I've never owned a personalized license plate.
Although I do enjoy being choice #2 now in the infamous "you can go with them, or you can go with us" question. Just Kidding! Been there, done that and wouldn't do it to you guys.


I watch this site with memories of real EMS, not this grade school bull.

Funny but after my first and thus far only post on here I received an email stating pretty much the same thing.


Now many of you have identified many problems in LCEMS and I have a unique idea! Address some SOLUTIONS!

John I beg to differ, not many problems have even been addressed. Alot of dissention and name calling but not many problems. I challenge each of you to 2 things.
1) Identify a problem, big or small, that affects Lexington EMS and it's mission of providing superior patient care to the citizen's, and as Lillard stated, address what your solution would be.
2) Accomplish the above without name calling, backstabbing, whining, crying or accusing.

I'll start.

Problem-
How should the County, both personnel and EMS, address the critical paramedic shortage issue?

Solution-
If it seems that salary/pay is always at the top of this list, it would probably be an indication that the issue hasn't ever been "solved". There are always some studies, always some minor pay increases to move close to regional/state standards. However there are often no significant mechanisms to ensure that employee's are continually some of the best paid statewide.
The thought process was that if EMS went to the 12 hour shifts, the flock would come calling. Bottomline, and I told several people this who didn't believe me, money talks. You can have silk linen f/w's, leather seating and jacuzzi's in all substation's to "relax" between calls but if you're only paying a paramedic say $20,000, then no "perk" in the world will keep him/her here or recruit others.
Now it's your turn:
Let's say that if the county decided tomorrow that paramedics were going to make $35,000 starting salary effective immediately, what can, could, should be done to ensure they stay here? Think retention.

This is just one example, again the challenge here is to identify, nicely, any "problem" that you feel interferes with EMS's main mission.

Stay Safe Out There!

Wally Bledsoe
cbledsoe@sc.rr.com

[Anonymous]

Well hell, while everyone seems to be so upset with thier place of employment, let me be the first to say...LCEMS is not the only place on the face of this earth that employs EMT's and Paramedics. THis means...stop your damn whining and find another job. Second....SPANKY...Shut Up!!! You run your mouth way to much and if you are not careful it is going to overload your butt. Scott...You speak for all of us in EMS and sure seem to have a good way with words...but you are just as lazy as the rest of us. HA HA..I still love ya... And whoever made the comment about hiring back some of the old folks like Crosby...You truly are a idiot !!! People like Crosby are the reason that EMS in certain places has fallen to pits. As for Lillard and some of the older folks...well I will be the first to say that when I'm lying in the dirt and the white light is staring me in the face, these are the Paramedics I want beside me. Clearly they can leave smoke rings around the rest of us in the back of an ambulance. While some of thier management principals and morals might be below standard....our ultimate goal is to save lives...something that I have seen Lillard do on more than one occasion. Lillard/Burnes/Platt...you all keep the faith and remember that these idiots that are leaving these negative remarks about you are inexperienced wanna-be's who will never have the heart and dedication that has gotten you where you are today.

[Anonymous]

YEAH THAT LEAGAN IS A LAZY BASTARD. HE SUCKS!












I'M SCOTT LEAGAN AND I APPROVE SEGROVE'S MESSAGE

[Anonymous]

Okay as i sit and read this BS that is being written i start to realize that you all need to shut up... i the person started this site just shows is that they need a life.. bc all they are doing is sitting back and getting a good laugh at all of you going back and forth at each other... ya'll are old enough to not act like middler schoolers... AND TO WHO IS RUNNING THIS, DID YOU GET FIRED FROM LEX COUNTY?? THAT IS WHAT YOU ACT LIKE ALL YOU WANT IS TO GET BACK AT THEM

[guest121]

First off, let me say that I am not an employee of Lexington County EMS or any other Lexington County department. I am also not a state or federal employee. I have been following this thread with interest, though, because of the numerous federal, state, and ethical violations contained within the text. Apparently many of those who post here do not realize that all information posted on this website is accessible worldwide, hence the name "world-wide web". My point is that while it is good to have a forum to discuss your frustrations and concerns for your department, this is not the best place to do so. First of all, there is a little acronym that a few have eluded to...HIPAA. For those who obviously don't know, HIPAA is a federal regulation designed to protect the rights of patients by limiting disclosure of information by healthcare providers or others such as law enforcement and firefighters. There are many violations of this regulation within the text of this topic. More importantly, though, you all need to understand that this website is not only visited by Lexington County employees. Your peers from across the state, including Richland County and Saluda County which were mentioned in an earlier post, are reading what you have to say and are forming a very negative opinion about the type of service being run in Lexington County. Let me also remind you that these types of postings attract the attention of "Big Brother" a.k.a. DHEC. Don't believe that just because many of you hide behind a false name that your true identity cannot be traced. This is a good way to find yourself in the middle of a DHEC investigation or at the receiving end of a hefty fine from the federal government. Consider yourself warned!

[Anonymous]

:D HAVEN'T SEEN ANYONE MAKE ANY POSTS ON THE "EMS SUPERBISION" PAGE LATELY. I GUESS NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT OUR SUPERVISORS. OR MAYBE THE POST PRIOR TO THIS ONE SCARED SOME PEOPLE? WELL I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY TO THE SUPERBISORS RIGHT NOW AND YOU BETTER LISTEN CLOSELY:



























KEEP UP THE GOOD (TEAM)WORK :!: :!: :!: :!:

:D " I'M JAMES SEGROVES AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE!" :D

[Annabelle .]

Don't believe that just because many of you hide behind a false name that your true identity cannot be traced.


This is so true, all it would take is a judge to issue a court order.

If Members who use this site would like me to set up a private EMS board feel free send a private message via this site. That board would be only seen by members you invite to join and will not be on the world-wide web.



AB

[Anonymous]

I was having a bad day once a while back and was complaining about ever thing from the ems crews, to the equipment or the patients. A paramedic I was riding with told me. “If you don’t like it come up with a solution and let someone know.” He told me no one is perfect if you aren’t try to help then you must be part of the problem. Why can’t we all put our heads together and help each other out. not trash each other.
:lol:

[Anonymous]

[quote=guest121] Don't believe that just because many of you hide behind a false name that your true identity cannot be traced.


Nothing in these posts is illegal. No patient’s names were released. So no HIPPA violation and there is a small thing call freedom of speech also.

[guest121]

Nothing in these posts is illegal. No patient’s names were released. So no HIPPA violation and there is a small thing call freedom of speech also.[/quote]


The fact that the patient's name is not mentioned is irrelevant. Refer to a post from "guest" on May 23 @ 8:37pm. This person states that the patient was someone that they knew, apparently very well. This individual could show the website to another individual, possibly a member of the patient's family...well, you get the picture. These posts are not only HIPAA violations but they are ethically wrong. Freedom of speech will not protect you from sanctions when patient confidentiality is breached. You can discuss how much you dislike your supervisors or co-workers as much as you would like but any posts that describe a patient's condition, care, or lack of care on a scene would be better served omitted.

[Anonymous]

I agree these post are ethically wrong but there is not a HIPPA violation. Just because you think you or someone you know may think they know the patient does not make it a HIPPA violation. HIPPA laws were passed in 1996. It only took 6 to 7 years to put in place.
Check with your attorney.

[Anonymous]

Actually nothing on this site is in violation of Hippa Rights due to the fact that the person in questions name was released to the Media, etc...etc... So you could say the persons name and not be in violation

[guest121]

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. I originally posted on this site to offer a simple warning against the general topic. It seems to have spawned a new topic that I choose not to continue to take part in. I will, however, respond to the last two posts.

#1- BPcuff- You're right, the HIPAA Laws were passed in 1996. However, the final rule (the Privacy Rule) was not inacted until October 15, 2002. You may want to check with your attorney.

#2 - LegalWizard - Even though the patient's name was release to the media, no information was given as to what actually transpired on the scene on that night. That information has been given here very openly and that is a violation.

You can interpret the HIPAA laws any way that you choose. As I stated in my original post, the HIPAA violations are not even my biggest concern for those who post here. There are much bigger issues at hand. Good luck to all who choose to take part in this post. [/u]

[Anonymous]

Actually The Paitents Name was never mentioned with His or Her's Injurys in the same message, so then again, no rights have been violated, that could have been something from a totally different accident.......Dont tell me this Crap, I deal with it 24/7 I know HIPPA...

[guest121]

Look, LegalLizard...You're starting to piss me off. I'm not going to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. If you are such an "authority" on this subject, why do you keep calling it HIPPA? It is H-I-P-A-A!

Health
Insurance
Portability and
Accountability
Act

If you deal with this 24/7, maybe you should get some sleep. Then maybe you won't be so cranky.

Have a great day!

[Anonymous]

Dude why dont you shutup, im gonna violate your H-I-P-P-A rights and shove my foot up your ass..

[Anonymous]

Why is it that when an idiot can win an arguement he always wants to start a fight ? This board is for those who want to discuss issues. If you aren't mature enough to engage in an intellictual debate then please find somewhere to post your opinions. Just because you can't win an arguement doesn't mean you need to threaten people. You have now invalidated all of your arguements by exposing yourself as a simple minded, low class moron who probably thinks his car is a GED and the paper that he got when he completed night school is a GTO.

[Anonymous]

First sentence should have said ..... an idioy can't win an arguement....

[SwanseaEMTGirl]

First sentence should have said ..... an idioy can't win an arguement....


You mean "idiot"?...lol ;-)

[Anonymous]

Listen To Stacey She Knows What she is talking about

[Anonymous]

YOU obviously don't know the REAL Billy Burns or are just one of the few people who have had their head so far up his ass for so long that you can't think for yourself anymore.
Hey guest you obviously dont pay to much attention when hollow creek was sent out to the mva it was sent as a 2 car mva head on, you ALL need to get your facts straight.....Billy Burns was the best supervisor because he did not show favrotism im sorry it offends you when somebody does their job.........A supervisor is supposed to be someone who watches over you and helps you when you need it....Not your drinking buddy after your done with your shift......You all are a buncha ems-fied morons.........Have a Nice Day

:axe: :toimonst:

[SwanseaEMTGirl]

Listen To Stacey She Knows What she is talking about

What is that supposed to mean? ;-)

[Anonymous]

As I said listen to stacey, she knows what she is doing

[Anonymous]

re: [quote="ShadyStuff"].You speak for all of us in EMS and sure seem to have a good way with words...but you are just as lazy as the rest of us. HA HA..I still love ya... And whoever made the comment about hiring back some of the old folks like Crosby...You truly are a idiot !!! People like Crosby are the reason that EMS in certain places has fallen to pits.

this is crosby and if you have anything to say about me i'm in orangeburg county every third day, and yes still running off sacks of s*** like you. so if you would like to open a can of whup ass come on down! :finga:

[Anonymous]

Crosby...it will be a cold day in Africa when you actually have the balls to run anyone off. And so you brag about being in Orangeburg every third day...truth is that you had no where else to go. SUCKS TO BE YOU!!!! And no...I am not going to give you the satisfaction of telling you who I am...instead let you wonder for a while. Just remember that I have seen your work...and you suck at it. Your Paramedic-to-Patient attitude leaves a lot to be desired and I am ashamed that you wear the same patch as the rest of us. By the way...Donnie says hello.

[Anonymous]

Crosby...it will be a cold day in Africa when you actually have the balls to run anyone off. And so you brag about being in Orangeburg every third day...truth is that you had no where else to go. SUCKS TO BE YOU!!!! And no...I am not going to give you the satisfaction of telling you who I am...instead let you wonder for a while. Just remember that I have seen your work...and you suck at it. Your Paramedic-to-Patient attitude leaves a lot to be desired and I am ashamed that you wear the same patch as the rest of us. By the way...Donnie says hello.

[Anonymous]

I stopped by to read this because a friend mentioned this site to me. I love the idea of the braggin' board, but this superbison issue is counterproductive and serves only to divide your service. I worked at LCEMS for many years and know most of the posters and the ones being posted about. All I can say is lay off of each other. You are only as strong as your weakest link and weakening them further with this name-calling and petty differences leaves you worse off in the end. Re-read Wally Bledsoe's commentary for a well thought out response to this nonsense.Hopefully you will see the light and move away from this self-destructive path you have placed yourselves on.

[Anonymous]

I can't belive that LCEMS dosn't have a better person to repersent them to the news media than William ( I WANTA BE A COP ) Young!

[Anonymous]

( I WANTA BE A COP )

And exactly what is wrong with that?

Again Signed and automatically dated (something most within this site is afraid to do),

Wally Bledsoe
cbledsoe@sc.rr.com

[Anonymous]

for a well thought out response to this nonsense.Hopefully you will see the light and move away from this self-destructive path you have placed yourselves on.

I wouldn't go that far but thanks none the less.

Just part of a few things I've learned since 1990. I just wish more folks were intrigued by positive problem solving thought as have been by the detrimental libel thrown on here. Seems the negative posts get far more attention but I guess that's like rubber-neckers riding by the scene of a MVC.

C. W. Bledsoe Jr.
cbledsoe@sc.rr.com

[Anonymous]

Wally, when did you becoome a police officer? Have I been out of the loop that long?
Sincerely,
Rooney

[Anonymous]

Wally, when did you becoome a police officer? Have I been out of the loop that long?
Sincerely,
Rooney

Coming up on 3 years ago Joe....where have you been?

Hope all is well!

Wally Bledsoe
cbledsoe@sc.rr.com

[Anonymous]

no news is good news,eh?

[Anonymous]

When the Lord made Paramedic's/EMT's, he was in his sixth day of overtime when an angel appeared and said," You're doing a lot of fiddling around on this one."
*And the Lord said," Have you read the specs on this order? A Paramedic/EMT has to be able to carry an injured person up a wet, grassy hill in the dark, dodge stray bullets to reach a dying child unarmed, enter homes the health inspector wouldn't touch, and not wrinkle his/her uniform.
*He/She has to be able to lift three time his/her weight, crawl into wrecked cars with barely enough room to move, and console a grieving mother as he/she is doing CPR on a baby he/she knows that will never breathe again.
*He/She has to be in top mental condition at all times, running on no sleep, black coffe, and half eaten meals. And he/she has to have six pairs of hands."
*The angel shook her head slowly and said, " Six pairs ofhands...no way."
*" It's not the hands that are causing me problems," said the Lord," It's the three pairs of eyes a medic/EMT has to have." " That's on the standard model?" asked the angel.
*The Lord nodded. " One pair that sees open sores as he draws blood and asks the patient if they may be HIV positive; (When he/she already knows and wishes they'd taken that accounting job.) another pair here in the side of his head for his partners' safety; and another pair of eyes here in the front that can look reassuringly at a bleeding victim and say" You'll be all right ma'am when he knows it isn't so."
*" Lord" said the angel, touching his sleeve," Rest and work on this tomorrow."
*" I can't,"said the Lord, " I already have a model that can talk a 250 pound drunk out from behind a steering wheel without incident and feed a family of five on a private service paycheck."
*The angel circled the model of the Paramedic/EMT very slowly, " Can it think?" she asked.
*" You bet," said the Lord. " It can tell you the symptoms of 100 illnesses; recite drug calculations in it's sleep; intubate defibrillate, medicate, and continue CPR nonstop over terrain that any doctor would fear... and still it keep it's sense of humor. This Medic/EMT also has phenomenal personal control. He can deal with a multi-victim trauma, coax a frightened elderly person to unlock their door, comfort a murder victims family, and then read in the daily paper how Paramedic's/EMT's were unable to locate a house quick enough allowing a person to die. A house that had no street sign, no house numbers, no phone to call back."
*Finally, the angel bent over and ran her fingers across the cheek of the Paramedic/EMT. " There's a leak," she pronounced." I told you that you were trying to put too much into this model."
*" That's not a leak," said the Lord, " It's a tear."
*" It"s for bottled-up emotions, for patients they've tried in vain to save, for the commitment to that hope that they will make a difference in a person's chance to survive, for life."
*" You're a genius," said the angel.
*The Lord looked somber. " I didn't put it there," He said.
****** - Author Unknown

[Anonymous]

How about the Paramedic that got arrested for beating his wife?

[Anonymous]

AH YES. GOOD OLE SNAGGLETOOTH.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure he is not the first nor will he be the last...so dont even try to make a big deal about it on this forum. And the fact that he is a Paramedic has nothing to do with it. There have been doctors, lawyers, and maybe even a president or two who have been guilty of doing the same. So shut it pal.

[Anonymous]

to beat ones spouse is just dumb its like drunk driving shoplifting or taking drugs when you are in public safety you just dont do it shame on
s---- and if they let someone go for just being charged for DUI or DWI then they need to be let anyone go that is charged fair is fair and stupid is stupid

[Anonymous]

guest121 go get a law degree instead of being a sidewalk wannabe

[Anonymous]

[quote="craig johnson"]i know the second message i wrote was difficult to read i was just finishing up a meeting i was having with a "12 pack" of my friends and a few of there "relatives". We had been discussing the event that had transponded earlier the day before, and i was suprised you could read any of it, but anyway if it caused eye strain on some of you i appologize and a few of you... just think of it as i meant to do it.. just kidding bye guys see ya around...





http://www.animatedgif.net/cartoons/oscarg_e0.gif HHmmm i wonder what they have to offer, well whatever it is you know they repect there employees. have you ever known big bird or the count to complain?. might be something to learn there, a little loyalty,some HONESTY, commitment, i think you can fill in the rest :twisted: Hey remember this email? Will we get another email like this one? Or is it all of our fault from the other one???

[Anonymous]

That idiot Lilliard has gone off the deep end! He atually thinks he can win a dispute with Commandant Gillis. Even with a bad back Gillis is still much smarter, at least on paper. I heard Lilliard even send a letter to ART! LOL! Like he gives a Damn. F--- Lilliard Please retire UR a hasbeen!

[Anonymous]

how about leave lillard alone and lets talk about employees leaving a pt in a room at the er with no report and the nurse finding the pt dead in the room a while later. i think this is the same one that gave meds.

[Anonymous]

You wouldn't be talking about EMT Meetze?

[Anonymous]

That idiot Lilliard has gone off the deep end! He atually thinks he can win a dispute with Commandant Gillis. Even with a bad back Gillis is still much smarter, at least on paper. I heard Lilliard even send a letter to ART! LOL! Like he gives a Damn. F--- Lilliard Please retire UR a hasbeen!


What's the dispute about?

[EMT Meetze]

What are you talking about, first off i never gave a pt any meds or drugs, that was another basic crew chief.... Secondly i never left any patient in a room with out a report and none of my patients have died so let me just clear up the confusion, Its not me.

scemt26572@yahoo.com

feel free to email me about this or any other matter that you want to discuss.

[Anonymous]

My bad, I meant Ms. Drafts. Sorry Mr. Meetze.

[Anonymous]

If half of you arrogant wanna-be's at Lexington EMS had even a fraction of the knowledge and nads that Lillard did, then Lex EMS would not be in the shape it is in right now. Lillard has been around since most of you were crapping in your diapers and for someone to say he is a has-been, then you are part of the problem. Lillard, your dedication and experience has made you a legend. It just sucks that Lex EMS has supplied you with morons to work with. Keep it up.

[Anonymous]

I second the last post.

[Anonymous]

are you sure the person was found dead you might want to check but i believe the person got up and left the hospital

[Anonymous]

i checked last night when i was working the person didnt die they just left

[Anonymous]

IS DEHEC STILL DIGGING INTO A 1050I NEAR HOLLOW CREEK?

[yep]

Looks like it is about time for S.P. To loose his certification, because of his failure to act on that dreadful night. and hang on LCEMS for the lawsuit.

[fireperson]

sounds like it from what i heard they are finally up to that case and are about to have a final say on what a piss poor job he did that night if you want to be a big man {pun intended} then you have pay the bill when it come due

[newbe ems]

what call are you talking about did it make the papers

[Retired Paramedic]

Looks like it is about time for S.P. To loose his certification, because of his failure to act on that dreadful night. and hang on LCEMS for the lawsuit.

I just want to thank the hardworking silent majority of Lexington County EMS. You do a great job under adverse contitions, little support, and are very unappreciated. I worked in EMS for almost 30 years. It's a very self -satisfying profession. You will never get the atta boys you deserve for your good work. You will only hear something when you screw up, and EVERYBODY
SCREWS UP SOMETIMES! Just learn from your mistakes and don't make the same one again. That's what will make you a GREAT MEDIC. To SP, hang in there old man. The REAL truth about that night will come out it court. The ones commenting on this site have no idea what REALLY happened that night.
Mistakes were made by everyone. Especially the EMS, and Fire Personnel on scene. I'm sorry a young male died that night, but nothing anyone could have done would have changed the eventual out come for that patient. That is TRUE no matter what someone said that a physician at Richard Trauma stated otherwise. His family would have to had suffer much longer and the out come would have been the same. My heart goes out to his family. So hang in there everyone. Lexington County EMS will turn around and you all will be the better for it.
Again, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GREAT JOB YOU DO!

[JRLILLARD/9emout]

That idiot Lilliard has gone off the deep end! He atually thinks he can win a dispute with Commandant Gillis. Even with a bad back Gillis is still much smarter, at least on paper. I heard Lilliard even send a letter to ART! LOL! Like he gives a Damn. F--- Lilliard Please retire UR a hasbeen!
First of all, if I had not "bedded" all the female employees you wouldn't be on here now! But other than that YOU really need to get much better at your ankle biting. First spell my name correct. And again you are right I am a "has been" just ask your Mommy even she will say "Yes Baby, he has been there" So be nice! And if not so be it. I like the way everyone on here has an agenda.Come up with solutions. And about "goat toteing", I worked for many years with LCEMS and when I started with GC guess what I started just a little less. Now Sr. Paramedics, Was a time 2 years exp, had to run 1 1/2 or walk 3.0 in a certain time, know your Protocols forwards/backwards,SOP's, but not now LOL. Now about my previous history leading to my so called "legend" status. I was known for many things but you know what anus, I always passed any "random" test, worked many days in a row, but know what all in the past. As we used to say in the Marine Corps, Eat **** Bitch, I've got mine now try and get your's! Anyway, I may be a loser and known for many things but at I'm known. For the rest of you I miss you but I'm still around

[Keeper of the Flame]

Good to here from you John. Those of us that have worked with you know that YOU BE DA MAN. :shotgun:

[aaaguest]

john are you sure you didnt take drugs????????????????? it is kinda hard to read your post without a toke ;)
and to the 30 year ems person SP had a duty to act that night and he knew what was going on ask dispatch the fire guys were not the ones who let the ball drop it was the top dog that night who prevented other from going our there

[Hammond]

I wouldn't go that far but thanks none the less.

Just part of a few things I've learned since 1990. I just wish more folks were intrigued by positive problem solving thought as have been by the detrimental libel thrown on here. Seems the negative posts get far more attention but I guess that's like rubber-neckers riding by the scene of a MVC.

C. W. Bledsoe Jr.
cbledsoe@sc.rr.com

Hi Wally, Glad to see your comments on this site. Ann told me about this site today. Thought I would check it out. I don't know what to say after reading all of this. I will say I really miss working at LCEMS, and I miss working with all of you. Doesn't look like I know a lot of the people working there now My job is GREAT in Iraq. Just finished my first year. One more to go, "maybe". I'm in the Al Anbar area at a site call Camp Habbaniyah. It's 6 miles from Al Ramdi and 5 miles from Fallujah. About as dangerous an area as it gets over here. Can't go to sleep without rockets and mortars rocking me. lol. Love dodging sniper fire. Didn't know I could still move this fast!
Hang in there everybody. It WILL get better. I hope all the problems are worked out IF, and when I make it back. I'll be needing a job. Hope I remember how to do all that "street" stuff. Thanks to the ones of you that refered to me as one of "the good medics". That really means alot to me. I would love to hear from all of you. Stay Safe, and God Bless! and as we say over here - keep your butt down!

Tom Hammond
CMATT, HQ Group
ECCI
Camp Habbaniyah, Iraq
APO AE 09381 tomhammond86@yahoo.com

[Hammond]

Hi Wally, Glad to see your comments on this site. Ann told me about this site today. Thought I would check it out. I don't know what to say after reading all of this. I will say I really miss working at LCEMS, and I miss working with all of you. Doesn't look like I know a lot of the people working there now My job is GREAT in Iraq. Just finished my first year. One more to go, "maybe". I'm in the Al Anbar area at a site call Camp Habbaniyah. It's 6 miles from Al Ramdi and 5 miles from Fallujah. About as dangerous an area as it gets over here. Can't go to sleep without rockets and mortars rocking me. lol. Love dodging sniper fire. Didn't know I could still move this fast!
Hang in there everybody. It WILL get better. I hope all the problems are worked out IF, and when I make it back. I'll be needing a job. Hope I remember how to do all that "street" stuff. Thanks to the ones of you that refered to me as one of "the good medics". That really means alot to me. I would love to hear from all of you. Stay Safe, and God Bless! and as we say over here - keep your butt down!

Tom Hammond
CMATT, HQ Group
ECCI
Camp Habbaniyah, Iraq
APO AE 09381 tomhammond86@yahoo.com



Since I'm on here, thought I'd do a little begging. Does anyone have an old "working" monitor/defibrillator with decent batteries and a charger they would be interested in donating. I could really use one. All I have now is an old AED that works when IT wants to. All my good stuff got blown up, and it doesn't look like it's going to be replaced in my life time. The US military moves at it's own speed -- very very slowly -- when it comes to replacing equipment. Most of the Corpsmen have to borrow supplies from me. Again,
Stay Safe Out There, and God Bless!

Thanks,

Tom ( they call me Roc Doc over here - thought some of you "oldies"
would get a kick out of that)

[Ann Hammond]

Thank you to everyone that has e-mailed Tom since his post. As most of you know he has been over there a year and is working on his 2nd. It seems like the time draws longer and longer.

And thank you to some very special people who have "gone out of their way" to come to Saluda to "check on me." Stuart and Carol, A BIG THANK YOU AND LOTS OF LOVE AND HUGS. Sharon and Todd, thank you for e-mailing Tom "forwards/funnies.

Wally, and the rest (you know who you are) Thanks for what you said. I know Tom is "doing" a good thing over in Iraq, and he loves what he is doing. However, I can't help but to wish he was here with me where he belongs. We have LOTS of "camping" to do!!!!!!

The "original" site states "Friends of SC", but I get the feeling it is not "friendly" at all. I ought to know since I was "slammed" on the dispatcher site. Probably by someone who does not even know me. But this is not about me, this is about Tom. So....................

I will beg for Tom too. He could sure use some more equipment. For those who don't know, last friday, 8/26, his camp came under severe attack and at the time he was "gassing" up his little truck. One of the mortars/rockets hit close enough to him to knock him to the ground. However, he got up and got back to the clinic where approx 25/30 patients were brought to him. He did have 2 other armed forces medics helping, but they still lost 3 people. These were Tom's friends and co-workers. How sad is that. I chat with Tom every morning on the computer and then he calls me before he goes to bed every night, so I am totally aware of what is going on daily with him.

His address is listed in the above posts and if you don't want to pay the postage on what you want to send to him, I will be more than happy to do this if you would just contact me.

Understand that Tom is my best friend in the whole wide world, in addition to my husband so I will do anything to help him.

Thank you
Ann

[Hammond]

First of all, if I had not "bedded" all the female employees you wouldn't be on here now! But other than that YOU really need to get much better at your ankle biting. First spell my name correct. And again you are right I am a "has been" just ask your Mommy even she will say "Yes Baby, he has been there" So be nice! And if not so be it. I like the way everyone on here has an agenda.Come up with solutions. And about "goat toteing", I worked for many years with LCEMS and when I started with GC guess what I started just a little less. Now Sr. Paramedics, Was a time 2 years exp, had to run 1 1/2 or walk 3.0 in a certain time, know your Protocols forwards/backwards,SOP's, but not now LOL. Now about my previous history leading to my so called "legend" status. I was known for many things but you know what anus, I always passed any "random" test, worked many days in a row, but know what all in the past. As we used to say in the Marine Corps, Eat **** Bitch, I've got mine now try and get your's! Anyway, I may be a loser and known for many things but at I'm known. For the rest of you I miss you but I'm still around


John you are still "The Para-Man"! It would take 10 of the ones writing the bad things about you here to have even an eighth of the Paramedic knowledge and skills you do. Jealousy is a terrible thing. You know as well as I do that the most incompetant EMS people think they are the best, and constantly down, and bad stab the really good ones. I guess in attempts to make themselves look better and to get ahead. You and I both know that the most incompetant Paramedics don't have a clue that they are incompetent! I wonder why that has always been that way? Neither I have ever really understood why EMS people work against each other instead of with each other to make the system better. I personally feel that this is why so many EMS services have most of the problems they do. Management does play a roll in this, but any service is as good, or bad, as the people working for it make it. I really miss working for Lexington, and miss everyone there - yes even the ones that didn't particularly like me, or I didn't particularly like. You really re-learn how much friends and co-workers you respect mean when you get in a place like Iraq. Too bad most of us don't realize it when we are working with them, and don't let them know this. I'm glad you made it to retirement. Hope you slow down a little now. Hope to see you when and if make it home, and I hope to be physically able to go back to work for Lexington County EMS. Take care my friend, and God Bless You and Yours! Tom

[Tom]

John you are still "The Para-Man"! It would take 10 of the ones writing the bad things about you here to have even an eighth of the Paramedic knowledge and skills you do. Jealousy is a terrible thing. You know as well as I do that the most incompetant EMS people think they are the best, and constantly down, and back stab the really good ones. I guess in attempts to make themselves look better and to get ahead. You and I both know that the most incompetant Paramedics don't have a clue that they are incompetent! I wonder why this has always been that way? Neither have I ever really understood why EMS people work against each other instead of with each other to make the system better. I personally feel that this is why so many EMS services have most of the problems they do. Management does play a roll in this, but any service is as good, or bad, as the people working for it make it. I really miss working for Lexington, and miss everyone there - yes even the ones that didn't particularly like me, or I didn't particularly like. You really re-learn how much friends and co-workers you respect mean when you get in a place like Iraq. Too bad most of us don't realize it when we are working with them, and don't let them know this. I'm glad you made it to retirement. Hope you slow down a little now. Hope to see you when and if I make it home, and I hope to be physically able to go back to work for Lexington County EMS. Take care my friend, and God Bless You and Yours! Tom need to proof read it before it was posted

[Hammond]

Since I'm on here, thought I'd do a little begging. Does anyone have an old "working" monitor/defibrillator with decent batteries and a charger they would be interested in donating. I could really use one. All I have now is an old AED that works when IT wants to. All my good stuff got blown up, and it doesn't look like it's going to be replaced in my life time. The US military moves at it's own speed -- very very slowly -- when it comes to replacing equipment. Most of the Corpsmen have to borrow supplies from me. Again,
Stay Safe Out There, and God Bless!

Thanks,

Tom ( they call me Roc Doc over here - thought some of you "oldies"
would get a kick out of that)

Ashley, Just wanted to use this forum to thank you for what you are doing to get an AED to me in Iraq. I can't express to you how much that means to me and how important a piece of equipment an AED is here. It's people like you that show the "good side" of EMS. I thought everyone that reads this should know what you have done. Thank You, and God Bless You and Yours!!

Stay safe out there!

Tom (that's Ashley Hoitt of Lexington County EMS if you don't know who
I'm referring to)

[Old Tymer]

I hear that DHEC is still investgating stuart and that they are getting ready to take action against his certification. I would hate to see Platt go!

[Unregistered.]

i wish things would have gone better that night too........................

[Old Tymer]

I bet that boyz family does too

[The Sage]

It seems everyone is blaming this person Platt but what about the fire and ems people that were all apparently on this accident scene. It appears that there were a lot of people from fire and 2 people from ems from what I'm reading. I don't know anything about any of this and how all this is supposed to work, but from what I've read the people working the accident, fire and ems, were the ones that messed up. If I were on a jury, with the information offered on these sites, I would lean toward holding the fire and ems people working the accident responsible, not this person Platt who wasn't ever on the scene and only had limited information given about what was going on there. There may not be enough information offered on these sites, but it sounds like this boy could not have been saved no matter what was or was not done. This is the opinion of someone who knows nothing about this type of thing and basing my opinion on what you people of fire and ems have written on these sites. This is the same way a jury would have to interpet all this information.

Matthew 7

Judging Others

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged.