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SoyYo
05-07-2004, 05:09 PM
Greetings,
I was told of this site causing me to expend much to much time reading all the logic mixed with emotion and venom. For what it is worth I have done "real policing" big city style and appreciate the need for "boots on the ground" to snoop and talk before the "who dun-it's" are solved. I have Great respect for those working at Lexington County and what I consider the sacrifices, economic and otherwise, of those who serve here.
My experiences as a "customer" caused me to believe some of the many Day Lord positions need returned to the street in vehicles with equipment that is competent for the job. What follows is my experience as consumer of police services and why I am supporting Harrison. :arrow:


 6 May 2004

Mr. Harrision,

I thought I might tell you why I support you for the position of Sheriff of Lexington County. The convoluted rational directly tracks your primary observation that ‘the Sheriff’s budget has increased 60% yet there still are not enough Deputies to take care of primary responsibilities of identifying and eliminating crime. I believe much of that 60% increase was forced on County Council who is afraid to be viewed as ‘soft on crime’ so forcing taxpayers to support big city fad programs when their Federal grant money terminates. There are just too many Day Lords and not enough grunts to do the work.

By way of background, I completed more than thirty years municipal and federal law enforcement service, the last ten or more assigned to multi-jurisdictional narcotics task forces. As does the Sheriff, I have advanced formal education in Police Administration with letters I could tack on at the end of my name. I have some basis for my opinions.

A few years ago I retired to this warmer Midlands climate. I had no desire to bother anybody, only pay the inevitable taxes and go fishing with my grandchildren. I tried to survive the cultural shock of
‘personal property’ taxes but failed. In reading the Lexington Chronicle, I was fascinated with how the Sheriff managed to have little programs mimicking each newest and best “advances” in policing as
developed in the big cities. I wondered at how the County could staff and fund all those programs. I thought, “good for him, good for us”.

Last summer I was honored to attend the Sheriff’s Citizens Academy. That experience left me with deep appreciation of the skills and immense dedication of the many under-compensated Deputies. The long program was thought provoking. I was curious about things like:
the relative youth of the commander of the jail .... there must be really high turnover; Why the Sheriff must allocate three full time positions for polygraph operators doing mostly internal investigations when the FBI allocated one operator to service 360+ agents and a whole State; How can three full time positions be allocated to “intelligence” yet there is no surveillance crew with time/duty to follow up on the data produced; Are there budgetary concerns fully equipping all the take home cars?; I saw the fleet of very tired cars auctioned off, each with over 250,000 miles [were they safe to operate?]; What management/ public safety considerations might be involved in the apparently large number of these
patrol cars breaking down because the transmission failure?; (There is no “preventative patrol” by the Sheriff’s department.) What of taxpayer liability and questions of good business practices in allowing employees to have outside jobs not to mention using the company car and gas (?) to drive two hours each way for outside employment; Why are calls for officers ‘backed or stacked up’ awaiting dispatcher assignment so early in the afternoon [5-6pm] rather than the normal bar closing time?
How do response time statistics compare nationally and regionally? {I am used to 7 minute response time in the city not 45 - 90 minute County time} [Dispatchers kept returning calls to those requesting service reporting they have no one available until the callers told them to ‘forget it’. I would want to ignore a "my neighbor's cat is coming on my lot to pee" run also. :twisted: ]
Why in sixteen years were the only new detective positions added those gained in grants and reserved for child abuse (4) and domestic violence (2) cases?. [From 1990 to 1998 the county claimed 37,600 new residents - were there no calls for investigations from that many folk? How about from new businesses?] How can these deputies be so energized in the face of such limited resources? These and other questions were and are thought provoking but “whatever works”.

THEN I found myself in need of police services. Last May I returned from a fishing trip. Little did I realize the old man in the trailer just over the hill from me had moved out and rented it to crack heads. I found my shed had been entered and fishing equipment stolen. I found more equipment taken the night it was unloaded. I dutifully filed a police report.

I reside at the end of a two track road behind a locked cable with a “stay out” sign overhead. I like it that way. This turn of events forced me to do what I had previously resisted. I started up the street talking to neighbors. The first one was the occupant of the old man’s trailer. In talking to him I came to realize he and his “cousin” were the ones who no doubt broke into my shed stealing my stuff. He talked of his problems working with drug addicts and how he was on first name basis with the owner of a pawn shop known as “Boss Bull” because of all the drug related pawning activity.

I gathered ample information to allow quick “investigation” and intervention with the goal of preventing thefts from others on my streets. At the bare minimum I thought the “intelligence” crew would want to identify these people in order to determine if they were the cause of local crimes, past or future. Thirty years of police work told me the first move is to identify potential suspects. It is very basic but not to happen. Parenthetically, at this time there apparently were warrants outstanding
for the arrest of this person for non-support. His arrest would have quickly taken care of the problem.

I wrote down the information including individual and vehicle descriptions with first names and license plate numbers. I learned [the] Resident Deputy[s] area of responsibility is all of West Columbia as well as the area approaching Red Bank. It is an impossible task. I gave him copies of the information. He affirmed my case was never assigned to a detective because of the tremendous backlog of assigned cases and an initial lack of “solve-ability factors”. I can understand the logic but
not the failure to give at least one phone call to victims leaving a name and phone number “if anything new turns up”. [The R D] let me know that several of the cars frequenting the house were newly purchased from car lots on recorded credit, but had improper residence addresses. The registration names were different from those known to me. In other States that is a crime. [The R D] talked to the “intelligence” unit obtaining crime report information and made multiple inquiries to the narcotics
units. None of the units reported any knowledge of or apparent interest in the crooks.

All it would have taken would have been a young pup deputy with a bit of time on his or her hands to do semi-surveillance and a few traffic stops to fully identify these crooks. No doubt a traffic stop would have exposed licensing violations and contraband discovery. I waited and waited for action.

Nothing happened. Later, the Resident Deputy apologized that he couldn’t do more as he had been assigned to investigate a bunch of middle school kids breaking into an abandoned factory. I believe him.

About two weeks later I continued my way up the neighborhood talking to all the residents. My message, without specifics, was that there was a crime problem and that the neighbors should take care to mark and secure their property. I learned of six separate larceny’s or burglaries within the previous several months, none of which had been reported to authorities. They remain unreported.

I was able to affirm the high probability that the women in the rented trailer were not only using but dealing drugs. I identified one man from court records who openly brags of all the homes he has broken into over the years. I reduced all of this to writing. I gave it to the dispatcher for the resident deputy.

Nothing happened. Now, several months later, these guys hung around the trailer most days. Huge parties were held at night. One day I sat with the neighbor across the street as he showed me how many cars drive to the trailer early each afternoon. Most stay only minutes.

I could wait no longer. I called for an appointment with the Sheriff. Imagine my excitement when I received a telephone call the next day from a Detective Lieutenant advising me that [a] Detective [deleted] had been assigned my case. There was still time for action. He came over. We commiserated over the unmanageable case load. I gave him more copies of the information. He told me of unpublicized successful arrests of a nearby organized group stealing lawn tractors. I was and am impressed. Too bad there was no time for my crooks.

I had my meeting with the Sheriff. I provided copies of my previous information as well as a letter similar to this. Perhaps there was cause for hope. Nothing happened.

Some four months later (I lost interest and count) - late last month - I was overjoyed to learn that (a) the neighbor had “called the cops” threatening to take his shot gun over and clean out the nest if
they didn’t do something; that (b) the drug squad raided the trailer as the original man I told them about was cooking methamphetamine. That guy remains in jail partly because of a $56,000 or more warrant for non-support and the drug charges. The police action lead to (c) the old man evicting the people the police did not take.

I can not tell you how absolutely WONDERFUL it feels to drive past that place and see it vacant. Apparently the Deputies enforced litter ordinances because the old man has returned to clean the place up. He has towed or hauled out many dozens of loads of trash. What a JOY.

Back to the realities of this election cycle. You understand the lack of “service” I received, especially considering I know how to develop and present information in a method allowing law enforcement officers do their job as efficiently as possible. The department had all the information needed for a “slam bam” mini-caper that would have avoided all of the mess if it were properly deployed.. What service does John Q Public receive? Does it take threats of neighbor violence for action?

Let me tell you about two more irritations. First is the aforementioned failure by Deputies to interview and record the six burglaries on my block. That neglect helped insure those re-elect the Sheriff because of “reduced crime” banners I see. Secondly, The Sheriff is running all around the county getting his voter support groups, excuse me, “crime watch committees” organized. The Sheriff tells each member of these committees that they are special [and they are] and that he has people
awaiting their calls when something suspicious happens in their communities. The Sheriff tells each one to call their resident deputy and/or central dispatch. There isn’t a chance in heck that those calls
can have response in a timely manner. There simply are not enough assets in the field. It is simply not right to make false promises.

Sincerely,
signed
T. C. Houghtaling

PS:
I talked to Jim Breazelle (sic). I was disappointed. He told me he (a) just wants to be a public servant and that he has no idea of anything that needs fixed or improved; that he will wait until he gets the job to check it out. I found his “platform” could use a little thought. He did talk of ‘voodoo accounting’ methods by the Sheriff’s Department which may be worthy of inquiry.

Anonymous
05-08-2004, 01:06 AM
SoYo------------------WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
05-08-2004, 10:11 PM
Soyyo -

I work at the sheriff's department but not too high up, so I will try to answer some of your questions, but I am unable to answer all of them. First my response is not to try to change your vote, obviously you have thought about your decision and a few quick responses will not change your mind about sheriff Metts - so I only encourage your vote on June 8 for whomever you think is most qualified.

I don't know what big city programs you are referring to and the fed grant money tied into that, but I know the County Council is not easily persuaded to spend extra money. The only thing I can think of - is the school resource officers and the fed money used to help hire many of them. Since you are relatively new to the county, it is important to know, that the sheriff's department went for many years without any siginificant increase in funding.

You keep referring to the sheriff's department mimicking new programs, I can not really comment on what programs you are referring to without specifics. Many of the sheriff's programs do not require extra tax payer dollars, but again without specifics I can not comment. Regarding the "Daylords"...the sheriff's department has some law enforcement officers that work behind the desk. I know this is a major point of the Harrison campaign to move these people from behind the desk onto the street. However, aren't you a bit suspicious that Harrison has never provided any specifcs, about who he would move and where, and approximately how many people this would add to the street. Since you are familiar with law enforcement you obviously know that any operation requires support personnel. Why not have support personnel be law enforcement officers? Keep this in mind - that many of these positions at the Lexington County Sheriff's Department also exist at other departments including Richland County and Columbia City. This includes Intelligence Personnel, Internal Affairs, Community Service and Support. I agree that more people need to be added to the street and investigatons, but that does not have to mean moving people out of the office - they have important jobs and can be as effective in stopping or preventing crime as a street officer.

Thanks for your concern about our compensation - as always, law enforcement officers could be paid more but the the deputies at the sheriff's department are lucky that they are some of the better paid in the midlands with many deputies from Richland County, Columbia City and others trying to get hired with us.

Regarding the commanders over the jail. I have no idea who you are referring to - the top three people over the jail have around 20 yrs of service each. Each very qualified to run the jail - it is important to note that our jail runs pretty smoothly all things considered. We have only two full time Internal Affairs people and they do other things besides polographs. Just a note- The FBI has more than one person doing internal affairs, in fact I believe there is another agency all together that does that task, as you are aware, its called the Inspector Generals Office, and I am sure there are a few other agencies that assist with internals at the FBI.

The intelligence unit. You are right they don't do survelliance of any type. They are investigators that assist with investigations among other things. Our narcs do survelliance, but as you know surveillance is the least productive law enforcement detection/prevention/enforcment measure and can not be used in all cases - it is just too time consuming and costly, if you doubt me ask the people that do surveillance for any midlands law enforcement agency.

I am not exactly sure what you are getting at about the patrol cars. We do conduct proactive patrol and I will leave the topic at that until some clarification can be provided.

Regarding the times for calls for service being backed up at 5pm. Why do you think that is the case - Lexington County is no different then anywhere else. Mostly - traffic is heavy at that time and it takes us longer to get to places. Also, we get more calls from 5-8 than any other time (I think). Mostly because people get home from work or school and notice something is gone, start fighting with each other, or incorrectly enter the code for their alarm when the get home or close their business for the day (among other reasons). Unlike the big city where you are from we have a much larger area to cover and most crimes do not occur at businesses like bars -
Regarding our response time- the average is 18 minutes. I have not done any comparisons since this is very difficult to do for a variety of reasons, but I am sure someone on this site will do their homework and see how it compares - However, just a word of caution - to do a proper comparison you need to look at agencies with similiar area, personnel, and number of calls. The sheriff's department answers over a 100,000 calls for service a year.

Regarding investigations - we have added investigators during the time you are referring to- I don't know what documentation you are looking at, however I am not in personnel so I can not speak about that matter for sure, I will let others from our department answer your question. Oh - we are energized but it is not always about money or resources for us, its about the work.

Now about your crime - first you are a victim of a crime and I don't want to diminish that. I could type all night about could ofs - would ofs etc. of your situation, so I will try to provide the cliff notes version.

Someone broke into your shed and stole some stuff and you think you know who did it (not concrete evidence just suspicion). We call that a larceny or Burglary - depending (we have about 4,000 Larceny and Burglaries a year). Yours is relatively minor - sorry - but its true. You met with a deputy, a resident deputy (more than once), and the sheriff. Your suspect was eventually arrested and the place has been cleaned up ....YOU CALL THAT BAD SERVICE. Your service sounds pretty good to me. Things may not have happened when you wanted, but they happened. - Also how do you know that there was not a drug investigation going on for a while at that trailor, rarley do our narcs just decide to go and kick in a door without strong evidence or conducting an investigation. Many times things are going on behind the scenes and the resident deputy with whom you where communicating may not know about this behind the scenes work.

We can not force people to report crime. However, we do not discourage people from reporting crime either. In fact, the sheriff's department has taken many steps to make it easier for people to report crimes. If I understand your request, you would like a deputy to walk up and down the street of every burlgary and larceny to ask all the neighbors if they have had something taken. Sorry, but that is not realistic for the Metts or even possible Harrison administration to accomplish. Have you considered that crime might be down because my coworkers and I are doing our jobs and doing them well, instead of saying that crime is down because people just don't want to report crime any more. You say that you respect us and our work, but at every opportunity you seem to doubt that we are doing are jobs (when we are) and giving us credit for helping lowering crime in Lexington County.

You don't think we have the resources to do our jobs - the only thing I can say is that we do a pretty good job with what we have. Crime is down so we must be doing something right. Finally, I leave you with one thought. I hope that someone will ask Larry Harrison this question - that if he is elected, will he assign every larceny and burlgary with a possbile suspect for further investigation and conduct surveillance and traffic stops on those possible suspects. If he answers "Yes" to even just assigning those cases to an investigator or deputy - then you are right - he might be the person you should vote for. I will eagerly await someone to get that answer.

Let you voice be heard and vote counted when the time is here - good luck.

Anonymous
05-09-2004, 09:07 AM
Why don't you, or why can't you, just own up to the fact that the LCSD could have, and should have, done a better job in this instance.

SoyYo
05-09-2004, 07:00 PM
Please realize I simply posted the my experiences as a consumer of police services leading to my rationale for choice in the election. I DID NOT include any questions nor attempt to recruit continuing dialogue. However some of the below posting deserves feedback. SO....


Soyyo -

I work at the sheriff's department but not too high up, so I will try to answer some of your questions,

I don't know what big city programs you are referring to and the fed grant money tied into that,
:arrow: {Gosh, lets see.... How about each new "program" that the Sheriff determines as necessary as he returns from any International Association of Chiefs of Police conferences. Most seem to have federal seed money I assume precluding hail mary's of the County Council - which is good politics unless you are the Councilman caught in between the budget and accusations of being soft on crime. Off the top of the head I can think of New York example holding field supervisors responsible for crime on their beat, domestic abuse unit no doubt, the helicopter patrol (?), Resident Deputies, School Resource Officers and Community Patrol stuff .... You correct that none of which is bad and much may be good but one way or another each program depleats resources and staffing. The fights over funding of the nationally respected Domestic Abuse unit as well as the School Resource Officers is but example. I surmise that the road patrol always looses.}

Regarding the "Daylords".... However, aren't you a bit suspicious that Harrison has never provided any specifcs, about who he would move and where, and approximately how many people this would add to the street.
:arrow: {I only know Harrison's comments about misapplication of resources and that his web site is supposed to respond to your concerns. In event you need the cite.... www.harrison4sheriff2004.com.
I AM suspicious of all the venom and rumor on this site alleging Resident Deputies and others having been told their job retention is dependent upon election results of their area. :evil: }

......... I agree that more people need to be added to the street and investigatons, but that does not have to mean moving people out of the office -..... :???: {I have no problem with desk jockeys as long as there are adequate numbers of boots hitting the ground outside. That appears to be the question. Are ther ecases of 'feather bedding' ?}

Regarding the commanders over the jail. I have no idea who you are referring to - the top three people over the jail have around 20 yrs of service each.
:arrow: { Excuse me. The "Facility Administrator" who gave us the show and tell led me to believe he is in charge of the place. He said he had something like nine years seniority which caused me to wonder how it was that so many command positions opened up in such a short time for such rapid advancement. I NEVER questioned the qualifications nor skills of these individuals. The jail definitely does not receive the notariety that Richland, Orangeburg, and other County facilities have this last year. I had never observed a "pod" style lock up before. My hat is off to all those detention officers who get locked in at a rate of "40 to 100+ inmates per officer depending on classification" not to mention the ability to expand 70% in 4 years to 750 inmates a day as of May 2002. I do surmise these conditions lead to the heavy Internal Affairs case load. The Detention Officers definitely earn their pay.}

.... We have only two full time Internal Affairs people and they do other things besides polographs.
:arrow: {Sorry again, Col. Seboe told me that there were 3 polygraph operators, 2 doing Internal affairs and applicants inferring the other was a more senior officer then trying to get out of full time service. My comparison is with a FBI office of about 356 Agents covering one good sized state. That office had one polygraph operator to handle both Internal Affairs, case generated tests and some for outside agencies. The inequality is thought provoking.}

The intelligence unit. You are right they don't do survelliance of any type. They are investigators that assist with investigations among other things.
:arrow: { :?: }
Our narcs do survelliance, but as you know surveillance is the least productive law enforcement detection/prevention/enforcment measure
:arrow: {I respectfully suggest you reconsider this theory. One of the main reasons I was urging action is knowing that study after study documents that it is a painfully small percentage of thugs that commit an amazingly large number of crimes, something like 80-90% of burglaries.
It is standard practice to have surveillance assigned to burglars, home invaders and the like identified by intelligence bureaus or informant information. Following specific criminals and watching them break into a place is good police work minimizing appeals. Please note I am talking about working cops not goof offs whom can goof off better in plain clothes. You indicate the narcotics crews do the surveillance. Those guys have so many cases going they certainly are not going to be able to surveil a burglar. Please reconsider your philosophy. }

........We do conduct proactive patrol and I will leave the topic at that until some clarification can be provided. :arrow: {my bad...... I see that 'proactive patrol' all the time...... usually quitting time.}

Regarding the times for calls for service being backed up at 5pm.
:arrow: {My source of information again were the public figures of your department as well as the dispatchers as I sat in a few nights. They all indicated that one of the most frequent runs are when the guy drinks more than a few after work either at home or in a bar then starts beating on the woman. I was told these cases are most prevelent in the later evening hours. MY POINT is that radio runs awaiting assignment are much more the norm than the exception. Such circumstances are probably associated with a lack of manpower resources to do the job. When Deputies put on 400 miles a night running from run to run to take reports they have precious little time nor desire for 'proactive patrol'. Again I had no problem with what I saw until I was a "customer". Holding shift supervisors responsible for crime happening faster than officers can clear runs is also not the answer. Metts, Harrison, or whomever need to review staffing assignments. }

Regarding our response time- the average is 18 minutes.
:arrow: {I have a hard time swallowing this number. On many occasions I have heard command personnel talking of response time with numbers from 45 minutes to 1 1/2 hours to more than that. The physical size of the county along with the traffic congestion on these narrow roads makes 18 minutes a dream.}

.......... The sheriff's department answers over a 100,000 calls for service a year. :arrow: My point exactly. You all are too busy and need Deputies doing 'proactive patrol'.}

Regarding investigations - we have added investigators during the time you are referring to- I don't know what documentation you are looking at,
:arrow: { Again I am only going from what your brass provided. A couple of Detectives and a Captain in charge(?). In June 2002 they said "There have been only six new men added in 16 years and those were 4 assigned to child abuse and 2 to domestic violence". Those six new positions must be utilized as detailed because they were obtained through grants. I was amazed to learn one Detective is fully busy handling harrassing phone calls and that officer gets 6-10 cases a day. I suspect some or all of those positions have been fully funded by County Council now as the grants expired. Never the less, six new detectives in 16 years hardly keeps up with the growth rate of Lexington County residents much less the new businesses that get burglarized.}

Now about your crime - first you are a victim of a crime .......Yours is relatively minor - sorry - but its true.
:arrow: { :evil: Yes I know my pinche little burglary doesn't make a pimple on the tail of ...... You Missed My Point. I know the odds of recovery of my property and/or prosecution are between slim and none. I pursued the issue because I know that people who broke into my shed are breaking into other peoples garages, houses, and businesses each night in order to fund their narcotics habit. I had developed information that would have allowed a quick non labor intensive thrust to be successful in protecting all of those people about to be burglarized. Had there been communication, interest, or opportunity for the most rudimentary on site investigation those people driving around with improperly registered vehicles while wanted on warrants for child support would have been arrested. It is simple. Feet on the ground. I appologize. I still get heated up. My concern was for others and to help you all do your job easier. That effort failed. :evil: }

........Your suspect was eventually arrested and the place has been cleaned up ....YOU CALL THAT BAD SERVICE. :arrow: { AFFIRMATIVE.}

...... Also how do you know that there was not a drug investigation going on for a while at that trailor, .... Many times things are going on behind the scenes and the resident deputy with whom you where communicating may not know about this behind the scenes work. ...........
:arrow: {Come on. Almost a year later some narcotics officer turned a snitch who was sent in for a quick buy/bust. Those guys had no idea of any complaints. If they did someone would have made a courtesy call to the complaining citizens telling them the outcome. Nice try. It was an very fortunate accident.}

We can not force people to report crime. However, we do not discourage people from reporting crime either.
:arrow: {I understand. Frankly I was totally astounded that none of these good home owners had called to report the crimes. I do think this attitude is something that some academic should follow up on. }

........If I understand your request, you would like a deputy to walk up and down the street of every burlgary and larceny to ask all the neighbors if they have had something taken. .........
:arrow: {I simply assumed (we know about that) that being told of a series of decent dollar loss burglaries in a very small locale associated with potential suspects would be cause for Deputies to knock on doors if for no other reason than public relations. That did not happen. I do not believe it is any reflection on the quality of your men or their work but simply on managerial allocation of staff. (That old 6 new DB in 16 year stuff, and the 360+ case per officer load).}


...Have you considered that crime might be down because my coworkers and I are doing our jobs and doing them well, instead of saying that crime is down because people just don't want to report crime any more.
:arrow: {You said that not me. I know the veracity of Crime Rate statistics is a hot topic right now but I just told you I felt you would want to make official record of felonies on your beat when told of them. }


I hope that someone will ask Larry Harrison this question -
:arrow: {Why don't you just call him up and ask? His card lists phone number 803-957-1444.}

Let you voice be heard and vote counted when the time is here - good luck.
:) And Good Luck to you. We are all in this thing for your "customers".

Anonymous
05-09-2004, 09:33 PM
SoyYo, I find your article(s) extremely interesting and well put. I know for a fact, from Resident Deputy friends, that they were told that they would be let go if Metts looses their areas. They have also been told that they will get the vote out for Metts. I am sorry to say that people in the sheriff department feel you are not important. Too bad, in business I thought ALL customers are important. ALL problems of the customers need to be problems of the business :lol:

Anonymous
05-09-2004, 10:45 PM
Fact 85% of the vote will go to Metts with the other 15% split. I do not forsee waisting time, money, and energy on trying to over throw a good thing. Remember the old saying if it isn't broke don't fix it. Re Elect Metts 2004!

Anonymous
05-09-2004, 11:53 PM
Well, it is broke and we're going to fix it. If 85% is such a "fact" what are you worried about. I have seen REAL numbers and they do not support your prediction. It will take more than a straw man and a barbecue to get the Crotch Doctor over this time. The calendar has turned another page and the primary is only about a month away. It is too late for desperation campaigning and the ballot is too crowded for break away events. The Crotch Doctor is simply not capable of a last minute sprint. If you think that Nosebleed Brasire is going to cause a split you are out of your mind. That kind of stupid manuver is the thing that will cost the Crotch Doctor votes. It's not like nobody saw it coming. Buckle up, Moe-Joe, this election is going to be over faster than a Metts' crotch grab. Brace yourself, it is going to be a rough landing.

Anonymous
05-10-2004, 01:04 PM
:razz: Oh HAPPY DAY!!! WHEN LARRY HARRISON WINS THIS ELECTION AND WE FINALLY GET TO SEE THE FACES OF THOSE.. MO JOE JOE.. HAMMER TIME, WYATT, Wendy... AND THE OTHER BARNEYS WHO KEEP TOOTING Metts sad horn...

HARRISON FOR SHERIFF JUNE 8TH... VOTE PEOPLE.. VOTE... We have got to get a handle on what is happening on our streets and in this three ring circus classified as a Sheriffs Department.

Metts doesn't show to debates.. Articles circulating about the lack of face time and debates... Harrison ready and willing to debate and Metts sucking face with someone besides his wife and not willing to take the time and attend debates that will give us VOTING CITIZENS a reason to consider him as Sheriff. NOT!!! What a joke!!! His lack thereof is exactly why we are looking for his REPLACEMENT...

It's Kick A## time and take names for later... Mo Joe..Hammer... Wendy I got yours...

See ya June 8th... It's on BOYs... It's on..

Reality
05-10-2004, 08:42 PM
MO JOE... Tell me your not attempting to do math now too..? Really, you are not multi-tasked. I think we have already defined that. Stay true to what your good at sweetie... Kissing Butt... and leave the comments to us Harrison supporters... Come on now.. go back to your corner.. I thought Daddy had you in time out...

:lol: