Ranking County council

[Unregisteredcurious]

It would be interesting to see how our viewers on this board would rank the effectiveness of County council members on a 1- 5 basis. 1 Being least effective

[ff2]

Eloise Rogers - 4 - For standing up for Pee Dee Community Fire Department and Marion Rural Fire Department during her last term. I rank this for her actions for the two volunteer departments in her district. For other topics, I do not know her views or actions, my bad for not being more interactive and attending council meetings and 'watching' our council at work.

[ff2]

Are You A Council Member Or Serve In Marion As A Political Figure?

[bigfish]

It would be interesting to see how our viewers on this board would rank the effectiveness of County council members on a 1- 5 basis. 1 Being least effective


Eloise Rogers - 5
That is a fact!

The rest - 2

[Ghost Towns]

A minus 1 across the board for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to promote economic growth. They are either clueless or could care less about the hardships their lack of leadership is causing the citizens of this county and the pace at which this county is falling further and further behind our neighboring counties. What a shame and disgrace. This county will be a ghost town before long if they don't quit making excuses and start taking action to make some positive things happen here.

[Unregisteredcurious]

very disappointed on how Eloise handled the Bingo scenario.

[Unregisteredcurious]

Are You A Council Member Or Serve In Marion As A Political Figure?

No , i do not hold a public office.

[bigfish]

No , i do not hold a public office.


So what if someone does or did hold a public office? :-) If I were in a position of public office then I would be very attentive to what was on this web page.
Are public officials not supposed to have their finger on the pulse of the community, after all? ;-)

[ff2]

Bigfish, just wondering if any of the county politicians are the 'guest' visiting the site. If you notice the site is getting visited quit a bit, but some don't participate. FF2

[UnregisteredCURIOUS]

Bigfish, just wondering if any of the county politicians are the 'guest' visiting the site. If you notice the site is getting visited quit a bit, but some don't participate. FF2

Yes they know about it and many are visiting.

[Unregistered Geek]

Some of them must have someone checking for them because some of our county council members and other elected officials in this fine county do not own nor would they know how to turn on a computer.

[bigfish]

Bigfish, just wondering if any of the county politicians are the 'guest' visiting the site. If you notice the site is getting visited quit a bit, but some don't participate. FF2


You would be surprised who is viewing this site! At first, the site was ridiculed by certain "powers-that-be" but that was due to the fact those same "powers-that-be" were running scared from this site! LOL!

Seriously, I truly hope that anyone that views this site in any position of power will listen to what the constituents are saying. I would if I wanted to keep my voted-in job!

If you need a great example of what I am speaking of then look at the Sheriff's thread.....and just how close was that election? ;-) Tenney, at the time, was a virtual unknown but he gave Mark a run for his money, didn't he? Mark Richardson will be very wise to read and take in what his constituents have said on that thread. There is such a thing as constructive criticism and a wise man listens to it.

"We voted you into this job and we can vote you out!" -BigFish

[ff2]

Bigfish, I told my county council representative about this site a couple of months ago, and she was going to look over it. I was just wondering if she was on anymore. TAKE CARE!! FF2

[Deputy Fife]

Fish, don't know what election results you looked at but considering the racial numbers of this county, Mark Richardson won by a huge landslide, much wider margin than ANYONE expected!

[bigfish]

Fish, don't know what election results you looked at but considering the racial numbers of this county, Mark Richardson won by a huge landslide, much wider margin than ANYONE expected!

Quoted from SCNow.com:
"In unofficial results released by the Marion County Voters Registration and Election Commission, Mark Richardson was re-elected as the Marion County Sheriff, when he took 4,233 votes to his challenger’s, Dewayne Tennie, 3,660 votes."

Let's see...

4,233
-3,660
-------
= 573

Where is your "huge landslide?" :confused:

By the way, I understand this was the "unofficial news report" but I do not see the official reports having any "huge" difference. I am sorry but you cannot argue with figures!

Oh, and please keep your one bullet in your breast pocket, Deputy Fife! LOL!

[Deputy Fife]

Fish, if you had ANY understanding whatsoever of Marion County politics, you would agree a 573 vote victory by ANY white candidate over ANY black candidate is a HUGE victory. Now you can say it shouldn't be that way and I agree, but reality is what it is. This was a much bigger margin than any INFORMED observer would have ever guessed.

[bigfish]

Fish, if you had ANY understanding whatsoever of Marion County politics, you would agree a 573 vote victory by ANY white candidate over ANY black candidate is a HUGE victory. Now you can say it shouldn't be that way and I agree, but reality is what it is. This was a much bigger margin than any INFORMED observer would have ever guessed.


You are right, reality is what it is. A 573 vote victory does not a landslide make. It does not matter what color you are! Sorry, buddy!

Like I said before, you cannot argue with figures!

[Deputy Fife]

What a joke you are Fisher. Sure hope this board is successful in baiting you to run for office so we can all get a good laugh!

[bigfish]

What a joke you are Fisher. Sure hope this board is successful in baiting you to run for office so we can all get a good laugh!


Why is it that when you use logic people get mad? Why is it the idiot comes out in people when they see their logic flawed? Why does the last, desperate act always come down to the personal attack? Haters abound!

Yeah, I am a joke. A walking punch-line. Thank you for the compliment! At least I have the cajones NOT to hide behind an unregistered screen name.

I quote you:
"Sure hope this board is successful in baiting you to run for office so we can all get a good laugh!"
Please keep thinking I am ignorant. It gives me an even bigger advantage! LOL! :finga:

[UnregisteredVoter]

What a joke you are Fisher. Sure hope this board is successful in baiting you to run for office so we can all get a good laugh!



We all have personal opinions but needless to say do we try and make it this personal on a web board? Come on people you need to worry about the current issues at hand instead of being concerned with someone you dont like. These threads are here to try and help our communities. This has become nothing more than a haters paradise. Grow up!!!!!!!!!


And by the way if someone has the balls to run for any public office, then they are better than most!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigfish]

We all have personal opinions but needless to say do we try and make it this personal on a web board? Come on people you need to worry about the current issues at hand instead of being concerned with someone you dont like. These threads are here to try and help our communities. This has become nothing more than a haters paradise. Grow up!!!!!!!!!


And by the way if someone has the balls to run for any public office, then they are better than most!!!!!!!!!!!


:w00t:

[UnregisteredMullet]

Fish, if you had ANY understanding whatsoever of Marion County politics, you would agree a 573 vote victory by ANY white candidate over ANY black candidate is a HUGE victory. Now you can say it shouldn't be that way and I agree, but reality is what it is. This was a much bigger margin than any INFORMED observer would have ever guessed.

you sound like alan floyd to me

[Sheriff Taylor]

you sound like alan floyd to me

I bet its the sheriff

[UnregisteredVoter]

I bet its the sheriff

I really dont think it's Sheriff Taylor because he was very logical. This is not logic. This is bashing someone whom apparently is not liked. Come on now Sheriff or Deputy, cant we all get along? LOL!!!!!

[Sheriff Taylor]

I really dont think it's Sheriff Taylor because he was very logical. This is not logic. This is bashing someone whom apparently is not liked. Come on now Sheriff or Deputy, cant we all get along? LOL!!!!!

I was saying it must be the marion county sheriff. This deputy fife took the truth too personally. Fife had no reason to call the election a landslide cause it wasnt. Bigfish said it best,
A 573 vote victory does not a landslide make.

[Onebullet]

where did deputy fife go? he was talkin trash until fish punked him out!

[Infamous1]

Its seems to me that our county council is doing a good job. I wish we could somehow bring more jobs into the area, and a more "up to date " pay scale for the current employees.

[Unregistered Chick]

Its seems to me that our county council is doing a good job. I wish we could somehow bring more jobs into the area, and a more "up to date " pay scale for the current employees.

If county council hired an economic development director rather than leaving the job vacant since last year, maybe they could "somehow bring more jobs into the area." Bringing more jobs to the area is the primary purpose of an economic develpment director and county council doesn't see the need to fill the job??? Duh? Opportunity is knocking and nobody is home in Marion County.

[nojobs]

If county council hired an economic development director rather than leaving the job vacant since last year, maybe they could "somehow bring more jobs into the area." Bringing more jobs to the area is the primary purpose of an economic develpment director and county council doesn't see the need to fill the job??? Duh? Opportunity is knocking and nobody is home in Marion County.

we should unemploy the county council because they are not doing their jobs to bring in more jobs

[TAZ]

Its seems to me that our county council is doing a good job. I wish we could somehow bring more jobs into the area, and a more "up to date " pay scale for the current employees.

In what ways do you the county council doing a good job? The reason the pay scale is low is because of the education level in Marion County.

[bigfish]

In what ways do you the county council doing a good job?


I agree with Fireman107.
If the county council is doing a good job then please cite examples. Where is the economic growth in Marion County?
Where are the new jobs?
If it were not for the small business owners then Marion County would have no economic chance at all.

[bigfish]

I wish we could somehow bring more jobs into the area


To do this, it would take the county council actually taking action!
The first step the county council needs to take is to hire an Economic Development Director since that job has been apparently vacant for a year. Oh, and hire someone qualified for the job, please!

What? Nobody wants that job? :confused:

[Unregistered Chick]

You would think some of the council members would be screaming about whoever is responsible not filling the economic development director's job. I can assure you if I were on that council, I'd be wanting answers about why the job isn't filled and I'd be letting the public know about my concern.

[bigfish]

You would think some of the council members would be screaming about whoever is responsible not filling the economic development director's job. I can assure you if I were on that council, I'd be wanting answers about why the job isn't filled and I'd be letting the public know about my concern.


Yeah, I get what you mean. There is not even any type of "debate" on the subject between council members when it comes down to filling the position. Why? They obviously do not want to fill the position.
Marion County must not have the funds for that.

It is what it is!

[MARCOman]

Your right goldfish, it is what it is. We all need to look back at the councils progress when election time comes around. Its time for a change.

[Trex]

I have to agree with infamous1 on one thing, the county does need a change in pay. This is for all county depts. Police, Ems, Sanitation, General Workers, etc...because these people take care of the county. They should have a little more incentive to come to work besides insurance and retirement.

[bigfish]

I have to agree with infamous1 on one thing, the county does need a change in pay. This is for all county depts. Police, Ems, Sanitation, General Workers, etc...because these people take care of the county. They should have a little more incentive to come to work besides insurance and retirement.


Then I move that the county and city law enforcement officers get an increase in pay. For what those guys go through to make a living, I believe it would be a wise investment! And do not forget the fire fighters!
Seriously, these are the guys that put themselves in harm's way every day they are on the job.

[LawOfficer]

I sure hope that someone can change the chinesse over time for the Marion County Sheriff's Office. It sucks having to work over time and only make $2 an hour. Basically the deputies are working for nothing.

[Bottoms Up]

I sure hope that someone can change the chinesse over time for the Marion County Sheriff's Office. It sucks having to work over time and only make $2 an hour. Basically the deputies are working for nothing.

Whether it's employee moral, economic development, our school system or a host of other important issues, obvious there's no plan in Marion County, no vision from our leaders, no big picture approach to moving this county from the bottom of the barrel, it's just a day to day survival approach. It's a serious lack of leadership from our county council and our school board. Seems they are looking for places to put blame to save their own face rather than finding real solutions. Until the voters demand more from our elected officials, it will always be that way.

[bigfish]

I sure hope that someone can change the chinesse over time for the Marion County Sheriff's Office. It sucks having to work over time and only make $2 an hour. Basically the deputies are working for nothing.


Are you serious? $2 per hour with the "Chinese OT?" Is that legal?

[TAZ]

Good idea Bigfish but where do you think the money will come from? The tax payers don't want higher taxes and with not much industry to draw from what do you do?

[MARCOman]

First off much respect to law enforcement.The 2 bucks an hour overtime is not worth your lives.

Second the EMS pay scale is way outdated. Our senior employees salaries are less than starting pay at other services. Let me break it down for you.............Law Enforcement, Marion Counties Finest.
Fire Fighters, Marion Counties Bravest.
EMS, Marion Counties Poorest.

To us CPR means Can't Pay Rent....

You may ask, Why dont you leave, go somewhere else if your unhappy? I myself like serving friends and neighbors of Marion County. Things are looking you never know what the future holds.

[bigfish]

Good idea Bigfish but where do you think the money will come from? The tax payers don't want higher taxes and with not much industry to draw from what do you do?


You are so right! "Who wants higher taxes?" I have heard that question used before by County Council members in the recent past in order to scare constituents into silence on particular issues.

Well, there is an open slot for Marion County Economic Developer. Since Marion County has not filled that position in a year's time (and does not plan to) then that money should be moved over to benefit Marion County's public safety officers. Makes sense, doesn't it?

I would rather the county give the benefits to the public safety officers versus another made-up job for another "suit" any day of the week!

Yeah, I know that this is not the answer you are looking for but I hope you see the point I am trying to make here.

Maybe Marion County can do better for these guys than having the ones that protect us being forced to make "Chinese Overtime" (if that is really true, yet I tend to believe it). I mean, how bad do you want to poop in face of those that protect you? :confused:

[bigfish]

First off much respect to law enforcement.The 2 bucks an hour overtime is not worth your lives.

Second the EMS pay scale is way outdated. Our senior employees salaries are less than starting pay at other services. Let me break it down for you.............Law Enforcement, Marion Counties Finest.
Fire Fighters, Marion Counties Bravest.
EMS, Marion Counties Poorest.

To us CPR means Can't Pay Rent....

You may ask, Why dont you leave, go somewhere else if your unhappy? I myself like serving friends and neighbors of Marion County. Things are looking you never know what the future holds.


You are exactly right! The two job areas that the citizens of Marion County rely on the most also receive the least pay.

I am curious about something here ,though.

Does the "Chinese Overtime" only apply to Marion County Law Enforcement or does it apply to Marion County EMS also?
I am asking this question out of nothing more than ignorance of the facts.

I still cannot (and will never) understand how an entity of ANY type is allowed to pay $2 per hour OVERTIME! Do I need to go back and re-read the Fair Labor Standards Act? What did I miss?

The way I see this:
$2 per hour Overtime = "Hustling Backwards"

Get what I mean? It makes NO sense! Who wants to hustle backwards? :confused:

[Unregisteredlawman]

You are so right!* "Who wants higher taxes?"* I have heard that question used before by County Council members in the recent past in order to scare constituents into silence on particular issues.*Well, there is an open slot for Marion County Economic Developer.* Since Marion County has not filled that position in a year's time (and does not plan to) then that money should be moved over to benefit Marion County's public safety officers.* Makes sense, doesn't it?*I would rather the county give the benefits to the public safety officers versus another made-up job for another "suit" any day of the week!*Yeah, I know that this is not the answer you are looking for but I hope you see the point I am trying to make here.* *Maybe Marion County can do better for these guys than having the ones that protect us being forced to make "Chinese Overtime" (if that is really true, yet I tend to believe it).* I mean, how bad do you want to poop in face of those that protect you?** :confused:

I smell poop

[Unregisteredpoop]

I smell poop

trust me two dollars a hour overtime is smelly poop

[King Rooster]

You are exactly right! The two job areas that the citizens of Marion County rely on the most also receive the least pay.

I am curious about something here ,though.

Does the "Chinese Overtime" only apply to Marion County Law Enforcement or does it apply to Marion County EMS also?
I am asking this question out of nothing more than ignorance of the facts.

I still cannot (and will never) understand how an entity of ANY type is allowed to pay $2 per hour OVERTIME! Do I need to go back and re-read the Fair Labor Standards Act? What did I miss?

The way I see this:
$2 per hour Overtime = "Hustling Backwards"

Get what I mean? It makes NO sense! Who wants to hustle backwards? :confused:

Boy I say Boy

Have you not learned the GOVERMENT can do ANYTHING. I mean boy it's a conspiracy boy, opps I mean fish.

Some days it does not pay to get outta bed.

[bladerunner]

chinese overtime is not fair for anybody

[lawenforcement]

Chinese Overtime works like this:
Net Hours get paid regular salary. The first ten hours of overtime is half of the regular salary. The second ten hours of overtime is half of that half. And then so on. So now you know that eventually you can be working for nothing. The Sheriff's Office is the only agency in the county that makes Chinese overtime. EMS makes time and a half.

[whyworkinlaw?]

Chinese Overtime works like this:
Net Hours get paid regular salary. The first ten hours of overtime is half of the regular salary. The second ten hours of overtime is half of that half. And then so on. So now you know that eventually you can be working for nothing. The Sheriff's Office is the only agency in the county that makes Chinese overtime. EMS makes time and a half.

How can the sheriff get away with robbery? That sounds like BS! Are the deputies chinese?

[China Grove]

[QUOTE=whyworkinlaw?;80161]How can the sheriff get away with robbery? That sounds like BS! Are the deputies chinese?[/QUOTE

Sure they are, you haven't met Deputy Long Dong Fo Ho?

Seriously, deputies are county employees, blame your county council for not providing the funding requested by our Sheriff for adequate law enforcement in this county, not the Sheriff who is simply trying to make our county a safer place to live and raise a family.

[bigfish]

[/QUOTE] Seriously, deputies are county employees, blame your county council for not providing the funding requested by our Sheriff for adequate law enforcement in this county, not the Sheriff who is simply trying to make our county a safer place to live and raise a family.[/quote]


This is very true! The Sheriff has nothing to do with how the deputys get paid because he reports to a County Council. The only thing the Sheriff brings the County Council each year is a budget request and it is up to Council to approve (or disapprove) certain requested items. Other than that, the Sheriff's hands are tied. You cannot blame the Sheriff. The County Council obviously implemented this "Chinese Overtime" idea and it is a dumb one, for sure!

[Battle Ax]

Its seems to me that our county council is doing a good job. I wish we could somehow bring more jobs into the area, and a more "up to date " pay scale for the current employees.

Infamous1, you are the only person supporting the county council. When you say "we" it sounds like you may be a member of the county council. Are you on the council?

[Battle Ax]

Infamous1, you are the only person supporting the county council. When you say "we" it sounds like you may be a member of the county council. Are you on the council?

Infamous1, where are you?

[Unregistered51]

Seriously, deputies are county employees, blame your county council for not providing the funding requested by our Sheriff for adequate law enforcement in this county, not the Sheriff who is simply trying to make our county a safer place to live and raise a family.[/quote]


This is very true! The Sheriff has nothing to do with how the deputys get paid because he reports to a County Council. The only thing the Sheriff brings the County Council each year is a budget request and it is up to Council to approve (or disapprove) certain requested items. Other than that, the Sheriff's hands are tied. You cannot blame the Sheriff. The County Council obviously implemented this "Chinese Overtime" idea and it is a dumb one, for sure![/QUOTE]

Think it must be a county by county thing. Dillon co. has chinese overtime too. They tried to file a lawsuit with the labor department but were told it wouldn't do any good. They couldnt file a suit against government offices (county Council) I think that is the way it was. I do know they tried to file a lawsuit because of labor laws and got no where. Don't know who decides the overtime pay for other places but know council does in Dillon co.

[emsgotpaid]

Think it must be a county by county thing. Dillon co. has chinese overtime too. They tried to file a lawsuit with the labor department but were told it wouldn't do any good. They couldnt file a suit against government offices (county Council) I think that is the way it was. I do know they tried to file a lawsuit because of labor laws and got no where. Don't know who decides the overtime pay for other places but know council does in Dillon co.

marion county ems employees sued the county with success!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a sweet victory!

[poorlittleambolanceman]

Is there anyway we could do it again? Lets brainstorm people...........

[bigfish]

marion county ems employees sued the county with success!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a sweet victory!


Marion County was in the wrong. The EMS employees were in the right. Nuff said!

[Battle Ax]

Infamous1, you are the only person supporting the county council. When you say "we" it sounds like you may be a member of the county council. Are you on the council?



Infamous1, I am still waiting for you! It is a simple question. Are you on the county council?



Why are you hiding now? Have I exposed you?

[Infamous1]

Not hiding.....Not a council member.....Just another brick in the wall.

[Unregistered 29581]

Not hiding.....Not a council member.....Just another brick in the wall.

Maybe Infamous1 is the county administrator or some other show dog of the county council

[bigfish]

.....Just another brick in the wall.


Pink Floyd.....good song! LOL!

[showdog]

Maybe Infamous1 is the county administrator or some other show dog of the county council

I dont know but he went into hiding again!