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Bacalou
08-02-2008, 04:03 AM
http://www.thestate.com/letters/story/477713.html


• Patrol leaders shouldn’t have tolerated behavior
The judgment of a small group of troopers has come into question over the last months.
However, the character of troopers remains strong. They could have destroyed the tapes that are being used against some.
The real question now is whether the Department of Justice will hold former department director James Schweitzer and former Highway Patrol commander Col. Russell Roark accountable. Schweitzer and Roark could and should have taken action to stop this behavior.
RALPH MOBLEY
Lexington


i imagine if I were Mobley's shoes the last thing I'd be doing is calling for someone to be held accountable for something.

anti-babble
08-03-2008, 12:53 AM
In his shoes or in his cell?

seagrave
08-03-2008, 12:12 PM
I just want to know as a tax payer what given cops the right, except in their own minds to be able to speed down the road anytime or place they want?They are not any better then the rest of us and should be held accountable for their speed as well. If they are not going to a call with lights on then they should be made to go the speed limit like everyone else. Why pull someone over for speeding if you do it your self in a car that should set the example. Just because someone carries a badge and a gun does not mean you are allowed to drive how ever you want. I think there should be made a unit to watch and pull over cops who do not obey the law and think they are above it. Made of people who are not afraid to do their job but to do what they are sworn to do up hold the LAW!!!!

Unregistered1048
08-04-2008, 07:26 AM
heres the deal .lawenforcement has the right by code to excede the speed limit to catch traffic violators.check the law if you dont belive.as for speeding while responding to other types of calls its a damned if you do damned if you dont type of situation.you can either travel a little faster to cut response time so johnny sheep have no clue citizen dosent put in a complaint for slow response time.or a supervisor write you up for slow response time.heres a idea why dosent every cop just quit throw in the towel and see where the world goes to then.because dont worry the real cops will be fine it will be the pu##ys who cry whine and complain about every little thing and how the police can do so much better than they are that will be screwed.lol

Unregistered2008
08-04-2008, 12:19 PM
i know it is hard on cops too. but it seems very funny to me that cops whine when somebody complains about them but some cops turn around and complain and give tickets to firefighters going to a call. so you tell me its ok for a cop to go 20 miles over the speedlimit when going to a call but not for a firefighter? and dont tell me cops dont do it because i have seen it for myself.
in my opinion all emergency personal should be on the same side. they are all here to help out the public.
and for the publics complaints they all just need to shut up because the day they need help they would not mind the cops, ems or fire dept to go 100mph to get to them.

BTDT
08-04-2008, 02:33 PM
• Patrol leaders shouldn’t have tolerated behavior
The judgment of a small group of troopers has come into question over the last months.
However, the character of troopers remains strong. They could have destroyed the tapes that are being used against some.
The real question now is whether the Department of Justice will hold former department director James Schweitzer and former Highway Patrol commander Col. Russell Roark accountable. Schweitzer and Roark could and should have taken action to stop this behavior.
RALPH MOBLEY
Lexington

This is like the pot calling the kettle black.

seagrave
08-04-2008, 09:09 PM
unregistered 1048, so what you are trying to tell the public is that cops have the right to speed anytime they want??? Don't give the crap about going after traffic violators cause I see cops exceding the speed limit everyday and not going after anybody!Just today I watched and followed a state trooper who turned on his blue lights in the city drove slow and and left them on going down the highway slow behind other cars. So are you going to tell me that is allowed by law to to run lights and no where to go but home? Get real man, ALL cops think they are above the law and don't have to play by the same rules aas everyone else.Maybe if all of you lose your licence for speeding or going to a call maybe then you can stress whining or crying to me. As for someome being a p***y seems to me that all the cops who are pissed off by citizen complaints should grow some and man up to their mistakes!

swampfox
08-04-2008, 09:18 PM
It's not all cops. There may be some good ones that know about the bad ones and think they shouldn't tell, and that's a problem. That may be how the bad ones get away with their stuff a lot of the times.

The cops I know, I think some would do their duty and report bad cops, and some would not. We don't talk about it.

Unregistered1048
08-05-2008, 01:43 AM
i never said police have the right to speed or are above the law.i only gave a possable reason as to why they may have been speeding when you observed them.yes there are bad people in every profession.yes people make mistakes.no matter what i say some people hate the police and are never going to change.oh well hope you never need them.and if it makes you feel any better if they mess up they will be held to a higher standard.and as far as growing a set they allready did or they wouldnt be doing the job.:)





SECTION 56-5-760. Operation of authorized emergency vehicles.

(A) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions of this section.

(B) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:

(1) park or stand, notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter;

(2) proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

(3) exceed the maximum speed limit if he does not endanger life or property;

(4) disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions.

(C) The exemptions in this section granted to an authorized emergency vehicle apply only when the vehicle is making use of an audible signal meeting the requirements of Section 56-5-4970 and visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 56-5-4700 of this chapter, except that an authorized emergency vehicle operated as a police vehicle need not use an audible signal nor display a visual signal when the vehicle is being used to:

(1) obtain evidence of a speeding violation;

(2) respond to a suspected crime in progress when use of an audible or visual signal, or both, could reasonably result in the destruction of evidence or escape of a suspect; or

(3) surveil another vehicle or its occupants who are suspected of involvement in a crime.

(D) The provisions of this section do not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons.

(E) The Criminal Justice Academy shall promulgate regulations pursuant to the Administrative Procedures Act so as to provide uniform guidelines and training programs for law enforcement agencies which use emergency vehicles. Law enforcement agencies authorized to use emergency vehicles shall use the regulations developed by the Criminal Justice Academy to provide written guidelines and to provide training programs for its officers and employees regarding the operation of emergency vehicles.

high_risk_entry
08-06-2008, 04:10 PM
OK...So I've read the complaints of cops speeding....and they do...a lot. Sometimes they speed for a reason and that reason does not always include lights and siren...ya wanna get to a burglary in progress fast but don't want the bad guys to know you are coming, etc. Other times it is because they have a heavy foot just like any other speeder out there. I speak from experience on cops speeding. I've stopped many coming through my jurisdiction and hear the same old story..."Professional Courtesy" should be extended to them...Well fellow cops...professional courtesy works both ways...If you think I should be courteous enough not to write you a ticket for speeding then you should be courteous enough not to speed in my jurisdiction to satrt with. You are no better than any other person on the highway...I remind you that we enforce the speed limiths because speed kills...no matter who the person is behind the wheel making that vehicle go so fast. So stop speeding just because you have some sort of imagined feeling of immunity. Stop getting stopped by other cops and taking up their time so they can do what they are supposed to do...If you are speeding needlessly then you have become part of the problem and not part of the solution...Kicks his soap box back out of sight and sits down.

seagrave
08-06-2008, 10:08 PM
1048 to start with I do not hate cops and do not understand why anyone would. Second of all, it is arogant people like yourself who think you are better then the average person who give the police a bad name. Hopefully you are not one other wise the department you work for is screwed!Thirdly, I know the emergency vehicle law you half wit I work in emergency services. All I was saying was that the police are to show by example how we all should be driving on the road and to just disregard the speed limit because they are in a police car or the really good excuse their own cars or trucks with the black plate with the blue strip that they think give them automatic passage. As for being held to a higher standard, what you think that cops are the only ones who are held to a higher standard if they screw up!

Unregistered1048
08-08-2008, 01:53 AM
i guess there screwed then :) sorry you got a ticket from some officer somwhere.sorry this thread was hijacked for a topic that wasent even part of the post.

seagrave
08-22-2008, 10:52 PM
Today I heard about a cop that was repremanded and sent to counciling for a speeders animal dying. What the heck is the world coming to when an officer does his job which he stopped them for 30 miles an hour over the speed limit and weaving in and out of traffic is done that way just because their dog died. That is a crock of s**t! The department he belongs to should take back the rep and get the people he stopped some mental help. People are even calling this officers house making death threats because the dog died. What are cops to escort everyone with lights and siren to every horse crap place because some one says it is an emergency?