Romney quits, Republicans officially falling apart

[swampfox]

Never seen anything like this folks, even though I've been predicting it for 20+ years. The Republicans are now left with two candidates that most of them don't seem to like. Even the wing nuts are threatening to vote for Hillary.

You don't suppose the Bush and his administration's performance had anything to do with this, do you?

[mootang97]

I think a lot of people have been hurt but I do feel that if Hillary is the candidate, any Republican will beat her.

[swampfox]

Maybe, but that's a long way from what the polls are saying now.

But I think if people vote outside of party lines this time it will be one of the best things that's happened in politics in a long time.

[mootang97]

I will say that political parties are the biggest obstacles in getting anything done in this country. People are so proud of a certain party that they won't agree with someone of another party to get something done. And sadly, the American people are paying the price for it.

[swampfox]

True, true, true, true, true.

[mootang97]

What gets me the most is listening to Obama say he is going to "unite" this country when all he does as well is bash Republicans. If any one is going to bring this country together it will have to be the people themselves.

[swampfox]

It will have to be the poople. But remember that Obama has to win an election against Republicans, after he wins the one against Hillary. I just heard Romney on TV saying that if either Democrat is elected that the US will be less safe than Afghanistan under the Taliban. This is what politicians do, and it's a dang shame.

And it was Obama who caught heck from the Clinton campaign because he had said that during the 80s Ronald Reagan had had the dominant ideas that the country ran on during that time. As much as I personally did not like Reagan, I will be forever grateful to him for getting the Soviets to back down. I don't think anybody else could have pulled that off. That changed history.

So you see it's important to be able to say that the other guy has a good idea when it is a good idea. The tradition in this country for the last couple of decades is that you couldn't do that. The other party always had to be bad and evil. So there did develop small sections of both parties that are pretty despicable, but they don't represent most of the people. Otherwise there wouldn't be this uproar among the Republicans right now over McCain. And their biggest complaint is that he has shown himself to be willing to work with Democrats in the Congress!

Government is all about compromise. Nobody gets everything they want, but we all get some. The government has been pretty much non-functional, ESPECIALLY in the last seven years because of the absolute refusal to compromise.

Democracy is hard work. I think it was Churchill who said that democracy is the worst form of government in the world, except for all the others.

[Grammar Police]

all he does as well is bash Republicans.

Hey cockslot, have you found any grammatical mistakes lately?

[swampfox]

I think your mama made one just a little while ago.

We'll keep you posted.

[TahoeT]

The biggest problem we have is that politics are controlled by two parties. The average Joe (or Josephine) probably doesn't relate to either party - but we don't have a choice in saying "none of the above." So we're a Republican or a Democrat because we have to be something...

Personally, I can't stand either party and wish they both would go away. Right after the primary I'm switching to "undeclared."

[mootang97]

One interesting thing that I think should also be pointed out.Everyone is talking about the record number of people voting in primaries and caucuses this year but it seems as if Democrats are saying come out and vote so we can beat the Republicans and Republicans are doing the same thing.Nobody is saying we should vote for the best candidate.What is wrong with that picture?

[swampfox]

I agree. I think that the two-party system might have been good at one time, but now it's really not doing us much good. Especially with the way that some people seem to need to think of the "other party" as enemies, instead of fellow Americans.

Maybe we'll move out of that stage. I think we got a wild election coming up.

[cuebald]

Maybe we'll move out of that stage. I think we got a wild election coming up.

If Mr. Bush doesn't decide to declare martial law and cancel the election.

[TahoeT]

If Mr. Bush doesn't decide to declare martial law and cancel the election.

I don't think even he would pull that one off...

[cuebald]

Dunno.

I stole this from a post on another website. Of course, the quote is not arttributed and probably impossible to vet without it, and with the internet disinformation flourishes. But the impossible is sometmes interesting. It keeps Hollywood in business, anyway.

However - Blackwater still exists and the 12 billion Bremer Bucks are still missing. Mercenaries are loyal to whoever writes the checks. I don't know, but I love to pass along rumors. So here goes. Also included a link to the website for InfraGard.

"One business owner in the United States tells me that InfraGard members are being advised on how to prepare for a martial law situation—and what their role might be," writes Matthew Rothschild in the Feb. 7 report, quoting an anonymous whistleblower on the program. "'Then they said when—not if—martial law is declared, it was our responsibility to protect our portion of the infrastructure, and if we had to use deadly force to protect it, we couldn’t be prosecuted,' he says."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROS20080209&articleId=8037 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROS20080209&articleId=8037)

http://www.infragard.net/ (http://www.infragard.net/)

[swampfox]

How the heck can this Infragard be a tax-exempt organization (see website) if it is a co-operative effort with the FBI?

And they're sponsored by something called SCRA, which I could not find out what it stands for in their website.

I don't know whether to worry about them or join up.

[TahoeT]

Be afraid. Be very afraid.....

[cuebald]

If the FBI knows anything about an impending attack that would be severe enough to cause the invocation of martial law, why isn't Homeland Security in the loop and why aren't they alerting every citizen in the country?

I would think that with so many black eyes after 9/11, they would be requiring the public to know the details whether anything happens or not, and if they avert an attack, it would be stupid to keep it a secret.

I think the whole thing is probably hogwash, but it does make a really nifty rumour, huh?

[TahoeT]

That, and any super-security company would have to have their 'martial law scenario' on the books... I mean, it would have to be on their list of services, wouldn't it?!?

[swampfox]

I got my martial law scenario all planned out. It includes some equipment that I'm not quite ready to discuss in public, but I guess it might be time for the minutemen (not the missile or the border protectors) to rise up again.

It's just so darn silly that article on that web page, about how a business executive could make the decision on his own to use deadly force and can't be prosecuted for it. If I'm in a position of authority I might make the right decision or the wrong one, but to tell me ahead of time that I will be held blameless if I do wrong is just crazy.

There is not going to be a military invasion of terrorists in our lifetimes. They may do more terrorist actions, but they don't have enough guys to even think about a mass attack on the US. That's just more Bush administration BS to scare us into accepting the revocation of our constitutional rights.

And to take it to the next step, we have this very strong principle called posse comitatus (sp?) that basically says that US troops cannot be used against Americans.

So, the whole thing is just blowing smoke in my opinion.

But if the effers want to fight, we'll do whatever is necessary.

[TahoeT]

You got it right... Posse Comitatus...

However... Congress gave Bush the power to override the law in 2006.

HR5122 (the John Warner Defense Authorization Act) states: The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

I'm dusting off my tri-cornered hat, too...

[better days]

Hey fellas, sorry I haven't had time to comment on anything or even read many posts. I've heard a few comments on tv lately that has me thinking. Obama is trying his damnest to B.S. people into believing this is a turning point in history. Possible scenarios if Hillary gets the nomination would be getting blacks to organize into massive marches. This would be supported by whinny pasty complected white folks, shouting "We'ez been robbed". I've heard comments on radio talk shows that blacks are saying they will not be denied. Now if McCain wins againest Obama, should it go this way in the general election, expect race riots. Of course Obama would do a little shouting and calm everyone down after a billion or so in damage to major cities. Congress would order investigations, the election would be held up and Bush would declare martial law and remain president. So see it's possible that Bush could remain in office folks.